https://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002688103-Importing-a-workout-from-BestBikeSplit

yep saw that. Point of post was to avoid any additional subscriptions. I have:

1. RideWithGPS premium
2. TP Premium

Can any other apps do the conversion automatically? TCX --> ERG?

One reason I cant support Wahoo... is they used to have this great app called "segments" you could make a segment out of any ride in Strava and compete against yourself or another on the leadboard. It was not free and I was only able to take advantage of it for a very short time... then it got buggy as hell and left unsupported. Sold my kickr soon after that.

good luck finding something.

Just FYI - it will likely suck to try and ride a 'real-world' imported .gpx file converted so you can ride the elevation map or even follow the power chart.

When I imported rides into perfpro (via bestbikesplit), there were tons of small little rollers that last for 1-3 seconds only, but which will basically render your ride terrible as your Kickr will be spiking every time you hit them. It feels totally unnatural, nothing like the real world, and ruins the ride completely. I even used the 'smoothing' function in perfpro several times, but it could never get it right.

I suspect this is a big reason why you don't hear of many folks enjoying re-riding their epic routes on the Kickr despite having really good GPS traces.

You would be better off (and likely get close enough for great training) by manually entering in estimated segments to match the key climbs on your route rather than importing them, and shouldn't take too long, as you probably won't be entering more than 15 segments.

Very good info. But some apps do have their own routes/races you can ride (so long as they're popular enough I assume)?

Yes, the apps are a much better way to go to ride courses. I haven't used one regularly to recommend, unfortunately.

best app recommendation? best app library?

 l like Rouvy. They have a free trial so give it a look. You can pick a course and virtual competitor from a list of prior course finishers times. Humbling.

l also use Zwift.

Software and videos from Veloreality . Great collection of road videos with the highest quality. Avelable in HD and 4K. Some unaltered screenshots straight from the videos are here: https://veloreality.com/...ia/SCR_HD/index.html . The software and couple of demo videos are free. Rest of the videos cost money. It automatically records your performances over segments so you can race against your previous rides. You can also race/ride together with your buddies over the Internet.

Understood that you don't want to tack on additional subscriptions - they add up. However, Best Bike Split gives you unlimited downloads as a premium member, so you could possibly just subscribe for one month and download a ton of routes, and then just cancel your subscription. I think you get a 50% discount as a TP Premium member too. This is what I did last year for my "A" HIM race - I wanted to ride my target power profile a few weeks out on the trainer - well worth the $19 or whatever it was, and I still have a number of other routes that I downloaded as well.

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Good call!!!

Do you know if I can upload a best bike split erg file into Trainingpeaks? The reason I ask is because I use the Elment to control the Kickr.

What head unit are you using on your bike? Just a smartphone or do you have a Garmin / Wahoo device?


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Check out this thread

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/?post=6384048

A Wahoo Bolt and also have Garmin FR35! Thank you!!!

I don't think TP supports .erg format for workout uploads but you could probably upload a .tcx file. The link below explains how to do it- I just tried for about a minute but couldn't get it to work - but that's probably just user error on my part.

https://help.trainingpeaks.com/hc/en-us/articles/204072994-How-do-I-manually-Upload-a-workout-file-into-TrainingPeaks-

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Thanks - point is not to upload to TP but rather to apps/websites in which I can immediately ride a route I've ridden/created.

Sorry, this was in response to TriathlonJoe's question

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You have many options if you want to recreate a route. Easiest way, if you have an Element or Garmin computer, you can load the route into your bike computer and ride it using your KICKR. However, you won't see a fancy map on a big screen.

Other apps you can use: Rouvy (only available for Windows), Bkool Simulator, Kinomap, and Tacx Training app (Windows)

I did a step by step instruction on the Bkool simulator here:
https://www.smartbiketrainers.com/...bkool-simulator-3237

I personally don't find riding real courses beneficial. I think you are better off doing specific training to prep you for the demand of the course rather than virtually riding the course.

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