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IRONMAN & Breck Epic: is IRONMAN going too far with their Host Community Contribution Requirements?
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I was just reading the announcement of IRONMAN wanting to partner with Breck Epic "to create North America's premier mountain bike race": https://www.postindependent.com/...-mountain-bike-race/

In today's climate of cash-strapped municipalities, would you agree or disagree that IRONMAN is going way too far with what they're asking from each of these communities where they're hosting their events?

These are the in-kind requirements they're asking from Breckenridge (taken from the IRONMAN presentation on the Town Council website): http://www.townofbreckenridge.com/...howDocument?id=13539:

"HOST COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTION:
-3-5-year contract
-Cash Component
-Annual Cash with 3% inflation escalator
-As an Official Destination Partner, your financial contribution goes towards covering some of the logistical expenses of staging the event in the municipal region as well as assisting with the broadcast media costs to help ensure that the event and host region get the best coverage possible both locally and internationally.

The event organizers will be working closely with the local organizing committee. Assistance with the following VIK services is required from the host community:
-Police service and public works (Route/Traffic/Safety)
-Town/municipal services and infrastructure(downtown finish)
-Medical services: Local and Regional Services
-Permitting and Resident Community notifications (print, radio, direct mailers, and news etc)
-Waste management
-Volunteers: Volunteer Director and 1000 plus volunteers during race week.
-Hospitality: Provide daily VIP location for Ironman to provide VIP experiences (Riverwalk, Theatre)
-Media/Marketing: Provide secure working location
-125 Room Nights for media and organizers"

Does Breckenridge really need IRONMAN?

I know these types of agreements have been in place for years in various markets, but isn't it time for IRONMAN to start paying to produce their own events?
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Re: IRONMAN & Breck Epic: is IRONMAN going too far with their Host Community Contribution Requirements? [SwimBikeHockey] [ In reply to ]
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Do you think these "cash-strapped municipalities" (Breckenridge, really?) will make more money off the racers coming into town for 3-4 nights?

Ironman seems to do well at ski areas because they are trying to boost their summer business.
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Re: IRONMAN & Breck Epic: is IRONMAN going too far with their Host Community Contribution Requirements? [SwimBikeHockey] [ In reply to ]
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Not at all. Communities who don't believe the contract provides net value need not sign. Contract terms will NOT change until communities no longer find it worthwhile. Next question.
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Re: IRONMAN & Breck Epic: is IRONMAN going too far with their Host Community Contribution Requirements? [SwimBikeHockey] [ In reply to ]
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An Ironman brings a lot of economic activity to a city. They aren’t giving away that value for free. But they also give away a lot of money to local organizations. In the Woodlands, they have given away about $150k in grants each year to local charities.

If the community doesn’t think the event is worth it, then they shouldn’t sign the contract. Also, if a community doesn’t help Ironman with those associated event costs then be prepared for your entry fee to go up dramatically.

Hope this helps.

Tim

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Re: IRONMAN & Breck Epic: is IRONMAN going too far with their Host Community Contribution Requirements? [SwimBikeHockey] [ In reply to ]
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Wouldn't this violate the Breck Epics rule #1 ? "Don't be a dick"
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Re: IRONMAN & Breck Epic: is IRONMAN going too far with their Host Community Contribution Requirements? [SnappingT] [ In reply to ]
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SnappingT wrote:
Also, if a community doesn’t help Ironman with those associated event costs then be prepared for your entry fee to go up dramatically.

Hope this helps.

Tim

I really hope that happens. The only thing that could break that madness. How about 100%?

And as a community leader, I would do my research if in the current climate WTCs dictate still is a value proposition.

I have heard of communities not doing so well with the current deal (although they would never admit that to the public), and the Taxpayers had to carry the debts from the inflated"Parks and Recreation" budgets.
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Re: IRONMAN & Breck Epic: is IRONMAN going too far with their Host Community Contribution Requirements? [windschatten] [ In reply to ]
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I’m curious, why would you hope that happens?

It looks like it is still a value proposition since the majority of communities where there are events re-sign for contract extensions.

I know in the Woodlands it has had a positive economic impact on the community.

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Re: IRONMAN & Breck Epic: is IRONMAN going too far with their Host Community Contribution Requirements? [SwimBikeHockey] [ In reply to ]
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I’ve done Breck Epic and I would hope this doesn’t happen, the race has a great feel and the RD/organization are first class. In my opinion Ironman would bring zero value for the athletes and most likely drive the price of an already pricey race through the roof. FYI if you dig endurance mountain biking put this race on your list, it’s truly epic.
Last edited by: trailsloth: May 28, 18 20:57
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Re: IRONMAN & Breck Epic: is IRONMAN going too far with their Host Community Contribution Requirements? [SwimBikeHockey] [ In reply to ]
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I live in Breck during the Summer and it's already enough of a shitshow during the tourist season (exacerbated by the curious decision, largely by locals, to keep throwing obstacles at the proposed parking garage). I love Mike Mac but really struggle to see how this relationship helps anyone but him. Hopefully more info comes out soon.
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Re: IRONMAN & Breck Epic: is IRONMAN going too far with their Host Community Contribution Requirements? [Tim_Canterbury] [ In reply to ]
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Tim_Canterbury wrote:
I live in Breck during the Summer and it's already enough of a shitshow during the tourist season (exacerbated by the curious decision, largely by locals, to keep throwing obstacles at the proposed parking garage). I love Mike Mac but really struggle to see how this relationship helps anyone but him. Hopefully more info comes out soon.

Don't blame the locals, blame Vail Resorts. We want the parking garage just not in the proposed location. The South Gondola lot would be a much better location.
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Re: IRONMAN & Breck Epic: is IRONMAN going too far with their Host Community Contribution Requirements? [ffmedic84] [ In reply to ]
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not to derail this too much but I don't get the objections to the use of the F lot. Everything I've seen is complaining about the aesthetics, yeah garages aren't the most attractive buildings and this wouldn't really do much to alleviate congestion (which is the real issue) but parking is a pretty big issue (imo). We're off French near Carter Park and we probably have a car towed once a week for blocking our drive. I hate doing that but...???

I did like the idea of parking on airport rd and using gondolas to get people in and out of town but that's probably a long-shot.
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