Not a witch hunt......a Twitch Hunt!!!!!!!

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Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.

This thread... I'm speechless. The time that could've been spent watching "The View," wasted on some chick and a 14 hour Ironman.

Duly noted, my bad! :-)

No, I do not think some cheating is "OK". However, I do not think all cheating warrants the same reaction.

I have explicitly said I am not defending Jen or her actions. If she cheated, she deserves whatever happens...from race officials. I think they reaction from the "ST Witch Hunt" crew is completely disproportionate to the offense.....especially since it was schittstorm stirred up by someone with an axe to grind.

Again, YMMV and we can agree to disagree.

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Chicago Cubs - 2016 WORLD SERIES Champions!!!!

"If ever the time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin." - Samuel Adams

I think you are underestimating how bored some people are at work. Do you REALLY think they care or is it more of something to pass the time and watch some drama unfold?

Hell I should be doing some homework right now but man, accounting work just sucks and this is interesting

It would be interesting to add a "Garmin Time" column to this table that shows the Garmin times in comparison to the mat times.

I so this image on this thread before I went to sleep (currently in another time zone). Expected this thread to be locked by the time I woke up, but then it has 200 more posts by then I woke up.

Putting aside the story of the OP, and the race, what I am glad to see is that the system managed by sportstats worked out and much like in and out of competition dope testing, the fact that course cutters can be outed and DQ'd is a good thing, whether they are front of pack Kona qualifiers, MOP or 16:59 finishers trying to beat the cut off.

Now time to go for a run. I think I just wasted 30 min of my life (or lost 30 min of running) speed reading this thread. I should have just downloaded and read it for 4 hours on my 13 hour flight later today!

I'm always happy to analyze Garmin Connect links or .tcx files - sylvan@sportstats.ca - I have the raw timing data, might as well have the GPS data as well. I use .tcx files on a semi-irregular basis to fix or verify results and I can actually claim participation in this thread as "work"!

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Sylvan Smyth | http://www.sportstats.asia | sylvan@sportstats.asia | Starvas

You guys at Sportstats are beyond awesome in my book and I mean that sincerely. It is so refreshing to see the diligence with which you guys follow up and inform us during and after your investigations so that honest competitors KNOW they are being protected and the cheaters also know they are taking a huge risk.

Thx to Sportstats for adding so many splits. I didn't even notice them on run but of course I was semi delirious by then. Anyway, nice to know you guys are doing your best to preserve the integrity of the sport.

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Primum Non Nocere, except to Kempy!

Jen said in posts #258 and #278 that she sent her Garmin data to Jimmy Riccitello at WTC. Hopefully he can forward this data along to sportstats (assuming it was actually sent to him, of course).

Hard to analyze a screen shot....

That's why I said pink font was implied. How anyone could take my original statement as anything close to serious is beyond me.....

Is this supposed to be a screenshot of Jen's Garmin data?

It's the one she posted earlier and took down quickly after.

Interesting. If her posted Garmin data is to be believed, she averaged 10:21/mile pace for 21.13 miles on the run. That means she would have had to run significantly faster for the unaccounted-for 5.07 miles to get down to her recorded 9:29/mile pace average.

Also, I'm not sure why her first split would've been at mile 18...

I first wanted to believe her but after looking at her past results and the actually timing from Ironman I knew she cut the course. What a funny thread this....

All sorts of confusing data on that screenshot...

You know this how? Oh wait the girl who cheated told you you so. You think the person who called out a cheater is way worse than the cheater?

I'm a dolt on such things. Is it possible to make a fake screen shot of this "evidence"?

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Find out what it is in life that you don't do well, then don't
do that thing.

Same boat as you in terms of wanting to believe her but you don't run consistent 35min 5k's and then run a 4:0x marathon in an ironman.

If you pay $600-1000 a year in advance to participate and then perhaps tell everyone for a year that you are doing an Ironman, some people have a hard time backing out.

Hopefully lesson learned, and she trains properly and enjoys a half ironman or something before attempting this distance again.

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Well, for starters, there is no way to know whether the data represented in the screenshot was even recorded on her Garmin device. It could be somebody else's data.

Not to mention that Garmin data can be edited by anyone with technical know-how...

The time logged at the top of the screenshot is "Sat, Nov 3, 2012 5:33 PM Central Time."

Does that time correspond to the time that Jen was on the marathon course?

OK, fine....I'll amend it. Some asshat creates an account for the sole purpose of calling out a person on an internet forum successfully used you all to accomplish whatever petty goals he had.

Better?

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Chicago Cubs - 2016 WORLD SERIES Champions!!!!

"If ever the time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin." - Samuel Adams

What I think you fail to realize is that the people who post in this thread are doing it because they want to, not because some mastermind tricked them all into posting here. Despite what you may think this is actually fun/entertaining for some people.