Not fully convinced. Nate Silver says I'm still 60/40 to think it's:

1:08 first loop of swim
15:xx T1
8:13 bike
11:xx T2
4:09 first loop of run, walking a brisk 18min/mile

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FYI we have sent all the info about about any athletes not completing the course to USAT like we do at any events.
Remember we are adding a LOT more timing mats on courses this year, we had 11 timing stations on the run alone.
The athlete in question had a pace on Lap 1 of about 19 minutes per mile, 4:03 @ 1/2 way on the run.
These new chip were are using are actually quite powerful and will detect up to 5 feet of the ground so even if you move them around it will still catch you.

The main factor is the Run, we have a system every 2 miles and that person is running 35 to 38 minutes for 2 miles so 19 min Miles on lap 1
Enough Said....USAT will take over at this time, Jimmy Riccitello has been back and forth all week with 5+ cases at IM Florida.

Message to anyone racing Ironman Arizona: Don't cut the course you will be caught....

We won't let somebody stay DQ'd if the performance is legit and we won't let an illegit performance stand. We work very closely with the Ironman refs before, during and after the events to make sure the results are complete and correct. Obviously they get the final call and they have access to any of our data whenever they need it.

I won't comment on the full case here, but I'll clarify the swim and T1 times. We had two sets of wires (2 for redundancy/backup) strung all the way across the exit of the swim to catch both the lap and finish. The first pass goes into the lap, the second into the swim. For whatever reason #461 had only one pass recorded, therefore it went into the lap and there was no final time for the swim. The IM tracker calculates all intermediate splits by subtracting the time of the previous split. In the case of T1 for 461 there was no previous split so it gave total running time for T1 - 1:22:59.

461 has a swim time recorded at 8:08:39 (7:00:00 start) and a T1 time recorded at 8:22:59. So T1 was 14:20. After that the bike splits at 15/33/55/72 & 95 miles were recorded normally. I could assume that 8:08:39 was the second pass of the swim and just move it from the lap to the swim, but I'm not going to make an assumption like that during or after the race until I can figure out what really happened - obviously some people do cut loop courses, either intentionally or not. I announced at the athletes' meeting on Thursday night that we had 1 swim split, 5 bike splits and 11 run splits, so don't even think about a short-cut. That's going to apply doubly at IMAZ - we'll have even more splits with the 3-lap bike and run courses. There's no way a short performance is going to stand. Even if intermittent chip reads are claimed, the order in which they occur at the various locations and the corresponding times will show what really happened. If it's legit, it'll stand and if a DQ was applied it'll be removed. If not...

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Wow, there are a LOT of d-bags on this forum. I wonder how many of you lost out on a KQ because of this young lady's timing issues. Jen, congratulations on a great race!

ok i just re-read my post and it completely sounded dickish... i didn't mean that at all. seriously, my apologies.

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Is that all you've got? Are you sure?

Am I reading this right to see you saying that the chip was working correctly and the paces shown for the first 13 miles of 19:xx'ish pace is what actually happened?

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or, we could just leave it alone and let sportstats, USAT, IM corporate etc etc take care of things............

That's basically what it said.

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Here is my question - why the hell would anyone bother to look up Jen's splits? She wasn't bragging about some awesome KQ, or a top AG placing. Really, who gives a schitt enough to look into it?

So it appears as though the first stone thrower is gerechtheid.....a new user who only created his account yesterday and only has 2 posts to his name. Hmmmm....someone with an axe to grind, perhaps?


Wonder if the ST sleuths will bother to dig into that one with as much zeal. Kinda doubt it, though.....easier to be a douchebag, I guess.

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But then that's not very much fun!

And was also banned, after harassing me on other forums and on Facebook.

I can't believe I'm posting here... anecdotal evidence:

You are the only female with a total time around 14 hours to even come close to 4 hour marathon. I mean no one is even close to you. It is very difficult for a 14 hour athlete to run a 4 hour marathon.

If you did - congrats!

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Following up on what Marc and I said:

#461

T2 @ 9:47:47 (total running time)
2-mile @ 10:24:49
4-mile @ 11:04:18
6.5-mile turn @ 11:48:58
4-mile on return leg @ 12:36:18
2-mile on return leg @ 13:14:54
13-mile near turn @ 13:51:20
Finish @ 13:56:15

A 4:08:28 run with all splits for a single lap in correct chronological order, only one pass of the far turn at 2:01:11 and only one pass of the near turn at 4:03:33.

DQ stands.

Even more splits at Tempe :-)

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Nate (and you): right again!

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Of note: "gerechtheid" is the Dutch word for "justice". Is this the birth of a new ST results vigilante?


Go ride your bike people... seriously. I look at the results and see a cratered bike and a one loop walk of the run, but I have no way of knowing this and I certainly won't lose any sleep over it either way.

I opened this thread for the first time 20 minutes ago. Admittedly, I haven't been through the whole thing. I haven't seen much "fun" in it regardless of the outcome. I do know that sometimes even when you are "right" you aren't "right". And I know from first hand experience in this forum that sometimes it is easy to get caught up in the "righting" of situations and "outing" of people that, later, I have wished I hadn't participated in (even after being proven "right").

Im Late, is that her race # ? if it is, ouch. shame on you..

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Glad to hear the DQ stands and I am glad there are more and more splits on Ironman races to catch this sort of thing....

I know this isn't going to be popular but it is obvious that the OP cut the course either swim and run or just run. But def run

By her own admission, at least she got a good stuffing after the race.

So the verdict here was that - she cut the course and the race is now a DQ. She didn't actually finish the race after all.

Is this the outcome?

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Interesting.....good enough for me to say again, why does anyone here care about this? If (and I emphasize if) Jen cut the course, she only cheated herself. None of the "outraged" here were affected or impacted by her alleged actions.

I find the actions of gerechtheid to be far more troubling than anything Jen may have done.


YMMV.

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