A whistler sellout will benifit Pentictons race

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I totally agree with you about the Kona slots. I think a LOT of people on registration day think they have a shot at a spot. Come race day most don't. And if you've already done a number of WTC ironman and you think you might some day get to 12 completions and therefore qualify for the legacy lottery, then you'll probably go with WTC over Challenge.

You ever been to Whistler in the Summer, Dev?

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I signed up yesterday for Ironman Canada. I loved the Penticton course but the monopoly the town has on the event is far over reaching. For all those that say WTC is greedy I couldn't disagree more. It was the businesses in Penticton that were greedy wanting a 7 day event vs a 5 day event. Last time I did Ironman Canada I stayed at the days in. You can rent the room I was in for $65 a night any day of the week. But we had to pay $259 a night. I just booked my whistler room it is 2 bedroom with kitchen 625 sqft for $179 a night. Nice job WTC.

As for the sell out I believe it will be wrapped up by this weekend.

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Khai, been to Whistler 4 times in August (usually at the end after doing IMC). I just find that Tremblant constently has better weather.

In terms of sellout, I give this 2 days max.

Impact of sellout on Penticton is positive. As soon as Whistler sells out and people can't get in, many will go back to Penticton. Right now many potential Penticton sign ups are waiting on the sidelines to see if they get into Whistler

Impact of Kona slots is huge. Forget about registration day. On race day there are still probably 1000 people who think they have a chance at Kona and halfway into the bike there are still 500 who think they have a shot at Kona and by T2 there are still 400 guys doing the math thinking they have a 50/50 chance. By the run turnaround there are still 200-300 feeling they have a chance.....then with 6 miles to go, it is basically around 100 folks fighting for the 50 slots. So yes, way more than 1000 people BELIEVE they have a shot at Kona. I'm always one of those 1000 and in 21 WTC Ironmans I have only qualified for Kona through rolldown twice....yet I keep believing that I might do it again. I'd say that thinking is the majority of sign ups, not the minority. Even the 14.5 hour guy is thinking that if he puts a good winter of training in, he will lose weight, gain fitness and be a 9:50 guy. Not neccessarily realistic, but as long as people keep dreaming and believing then the draw will be there.

Dev

I see some comments on weather, and that the water temp will be fine. But what are the avg daily temps in late August? I for one would like a "cooler" IM race. Say, upper 60s/lower 70s as the high. Seems like Whistler will be cooler, maybe not that cool though.

I agree 100% I always think I am one stomach flu taking out 50% of the competition away from KONA :)

According to Whistler's climate chart
August
22�C / 72�F 13�C / 55�F

30-year average Environment Canada climate normals for Whistler
http://www.climate.weatheroffice.gc.ca/...nth1=0&month2=12

for Aug:
average temp: 16.1 C (61 F)
ave daily max: 22.9 C (73 F)
ave daily min: 8.6 C (47 F)

Also keep in mind race day is last weekend in Aug and the averages for September are about 4 C cooler.

Thanks for th info!

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Not sold out yet, (4:30 EST) and only $625

Interesting

Plus HST (12%) and Active.com mandatory 'wrong-holing' fees. I bet they don't take the time to issue HST refunds for non-Canadian residents either. On that note, I would like to point out that Lifetime Fitness went out of their way to issue us US$12 refunds for our USAT fees paid for the Leadman Tri. Classy move!

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"The runner-up John Dunbar, a US Navy Seal, led after the second transition and had a chance to win but ran out of water on the marathon course; his support crew resorted to giving him beer instead." -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironman_Triathlon

I was traveling through the Nevada on my motor bike a few years ago and while at a gas station a American tourist noticed my BC license plate and said to me "Jesus was born in Bethlehem but God was born in Whistler...". Whistler is truly a beautiful and remarkable place and as such, I suspect IMC 2013 will eventually sell out.

Dev seemed to prefer Tremblant based on his comparison post but I too have been to both and note that (IMO) Whistler is far superior.

It is interesting to note that the 2 week mountain bike Crankworx festival ends the Sunday before IMC week starts - it will be three weeks of cycling events in Whistler.

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There, fixed it for you. ;)

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"The runner-up John Dunbar, a US Navy Seal, led after the second transition and had a chance to win but ran out of water on the marathon course; his support crew resorted to giving him beer instead." -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironman_Triathlon

I saw the elevation from the base to the peak went from 2K feet to over 5K feet? Will altitude be an issue in Whistler?

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Dont you have to apply to get your hst back? I am annoyed about 12% since Gst is only 5% here.

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Well, you can bank on it not selling out before April 2013, and try to register then. I think that is when the HST rolls back to PST & GST. This province is sooooo stupid!

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"The runner-up John Dunbar, a US Navy Seal, led after the second transition and had a chance to win but ran out of water on the marathon course; his support crew resorted to giving him beer instead." -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironman_Triathlon

With the GranFondo two weeks after IMC.

No I did not say I prefer Tremblant.

I prefer the resort of Whistler but I THINK the RACE at Tremblant will be better at least for this first year in Whistler. Then after that I don't know.

Right now we are comparing vaporware to a real product. Vaporware always wins conceptually, but I'd rather wait till we are comparing two products, and generally like most of my customers, I'd rather hang my hat on real product until vaporware materializes into the real thing. Then we can compare them head to head.

i don't want to commit to race 10 months from now, in the past I have always qualified for a spot at a summer 1/2 IM, does anyone know if there will be spots at 1/2 IM or independent races like there have been in the past. Do other IM North America races have spots at 1/2 IM races?

Sadly, that system no longer exists! You may be stuck going to Louisville!

This is bang on.

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I'm sure they will get enough people to sign up eventually, but I bet it will take a bit of time. I bet they are more worried about volunteers than anything. A lot of people in the town are 'transient' and not long time residents. It might be hard to pull enough volunteers from a relatively small population in a place that has no shortage of events. If I am the Grand Fondo, I don't think I would share my volunteer list with the two events only a couple weeks apart.

We will be involved on the timing side for sure for Whislter, looking forward to this new Ironman event.