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How long til the 945 is replaced?
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My 935 just crapped itself after some very loyal service.
Happy to shell out now for a 945 but if a new model is imminent would prefer to hold off.
I realize garmin tends to keep things pretty tight....but if anyone has any advice please feel free to share!!
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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Aren't they generally on a 2 year cycle?

If so, the "955" isn't due for another year or so.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [dpd3672] [ In reply to ]
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dpd3672 wrote:
Aren't they generally on a 2 year cycle?

If so, the "955" isn't due for another year or so.

I thought Garmin was a bit unpredictable.....just googled the release date now and it was April 30th 2019, so we are 18 months into the lifecycle so far.....
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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They usually seem to release a new version just as they've finally fixed all the bugs in the current one. So about 2 years on the 935 to 945
(Only half pink).
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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About 6 months after you start seeing them go on sale
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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There were rumors of a fall 955 release around the time that the new scale passed its FCC certification. But, we have a scale and no 955. So, if I were a betting man, I would bet on a 955 in the spring of 2021. If your 935 crapped now, it might be tough to survive another 7-8 months without a watch. You could get a cheap stopgap now and then a 955 whenever it arrives. But, the 945 is pretty sweet, and you might see a great Black Friday deal in the coming weeks.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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Amnesia wrote:
My 935 just crapped itself after some very loyal service.
Happy to shell out now for a 945 but if a new model is imminent would prefer to hold off.
I realize garmin tends to keep things pretty tight....but if anyone has any advice please feel free to share!!

Do you really think the 955 has anything you can't live without that the 945 does not?
I would just wait for black Friday and get a cheap 945
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [lassekk] [ In reply to ]
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Exactly. The only thing the 955 will have over the 945 is 6 months of bugs and glitches, with at least a few serious ones.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [lassekk] [ In reply to ]
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Do you really think the 955 has anything you can't live without that the 945 does not?

Given that Garmin often puts its newest tech into other watches first, the obvious updates would be:
  • Solar recharging
  • AMOLED bright screen


Not sure if the two of them can go together though since the solar works partly through a transparent screen. If I had to guess, they're currently working on making solar the next big thing. There's the odd Fenix 6 variant that has solar but isn't really a deal-breaker in my opinion until you can get to near infinite battery when in watch mode (sport mode obviously different).

Plus, there's always the option to make the watch smaller/longer battery/more responsive/more accurate, but I doubt those are deal breakers
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [dashelj] [ In reply to ]
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dashelj wrote:
The only thing the 955 will have over the 945 is 6 months of bugs and glitches, with at least a few serious ones.
I am always curious when I see posts like these. Specifically, what were the serious glitches (and other) that people experienced with the 945? I had a 735XT since launch and a 945 since launch. Both have been nearly flawless. I think my 945 may have glitched (rebooted) once in almost two years of use, but I cannot remember. It could have been a bike computer.

There have been hardware issues with the altimeters since those were introduced, but that is physical and I suspect common to every watch with an altimeter.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [timbasile] [ In reply to ]
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timbasile wrote:
lassekk wrote:
Do you really think the 955 has anything you can't live without that the 945 does not?


Given that Garmin often puts its newest tech into other watches first, the obvious updates would be:
  • Solar recharging
  • AMOLED bright screen


Not sure if the two of them can go together though since the solar works partly through a transparent screen. If I had to guess, they're currently working on making solar the next big thing. There's the odd Fenix 6 variant that has solar but isn't really a deal-breaker in my opinion until you can get to near infinite battery when in watch mode (sport mode obviously different).

Plus, there's always the option to make the watch smaller/longer battery/more responsive/more accurate, but I doubt those are deal breakers

AMOLED screen isn't going to find it's way into the 955 or any other long distance watch. The battery draw from the screen is too much of a compromise when ultra long battery line is the #1 goal. Yes, OLED is certainly pretty and I expect we will see it on more Garmins in the future (I bet there will be an AMOLED Fenix 7 option.)

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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [lassekk] [ In reply to ]
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lassekk wrote:
Amnesia wrote:
My 935 just crapped itself after some very loyal service.
Happy to shell out now for a 945 but if a new model is imminent would prefer to hold off.
I realize garmin tends to keep things pretty tight....but if anyone has any advice please feel free to share!!

Do you really think the 955 has anything you can't live without that the 945 does not?
I would just wait for black Friday and get a cheap 945
I dont Think the next iteration of the watch Will have something I Can’t live without, but Will probably have some features I want. Right now, there are suggested Daily workouts, which are probably not the workouts I would do THAT day, But in general Seem ok (been using it with the beta version as Well). As it is right now, if you’ve completed the Daily run workout, the cycling won’t appear. There’s some work to be done there and that might be a Selling point for multi-sport athletes on the next watch. And/or native run power. Personalised training plans based on your goals and activities. Probably better garmin/Tacx integration. There’s a lot of potential waiting to be ubeleashed. Garmin could easily make trainerroad obsolete to Garmin users, if they wanted
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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Meanwhile, my 920 which I bought as a manufacturer refurbished second about 4 years ago continues to work flawlessly. I've all the various Garmins I've owned, this one has lasted the longest and is by far the best.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
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HuffNPuff wrote:
Meanwhile, my 920 which I bought as a manufacturer refurbished second about 4 years ago continues to work flawlessly. I've all the various Garmins I've owned, this one has lasted the longest and is by far the best.

This is my problem. Same as you....bought my refurbed in Sept 2016. The damn thing won't quit working, and it does everything I *need* it to do. It works every damn day, no matter what. Even my friggin' altimeter still works.

So, I have no justifiable excuse to "have to get a new watch". "N+1" notwithstanding, of course.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
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HuffNPuff wrote:
Meanwhile, my 920 which I bought as a manufacturer refurbished second about 4 years ago continues to work flawlessly. I've all the various Garmins I've owned, this one has lasted the longest and is by far the best.

My 920 died a slow death through what looks like water ingress.....was such a great watch.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
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My 310 still keeps on trucking, now as small cycle gps.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Tom_hampton] [ In reply to ]
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Tom_hampton wrote:
HuffNPuff wrote:
Meanwhile, my 920 which I bought as a manufacturer refurbished second about 4 years ago continues to work flawlessly. I've all the various Garmins I've owned, this one has lasted the longest and is by far the best.


This is my problem. Same as you....bought my refurbed in Sept 2016. The damn thing won't quit working, and it does everything I *need* it to do. It works every damn day, no matter what. Even my friggin' altimeter still works.

So, I have no justifiable excuse to "have to get a new watch". "N+1" notwithstanding, of course.

Mine too. But to me it has the added benefit of a rectangular screen. I hate the circular ones. I'm hoping Garmin brings back the rectangular look in the 955
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Tom_hampton] [ In reply to ]
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I thought the 920 was all I ever wanted or needed too. then I got the 945. the music and mapping is a game changer! climb pro is really cool too.
I thought I would always like the rectangular screen better for workouts but I was wrong. I love the circle screen and I actually wear this watch all the time now. where as with the 920 there was no way I was wearing that out to dinner with my wife.
there are a lot of features and fluff that I never use, but man some of those features that I do use, they are so nice and cant imagine not having them.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
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HuffNPuff wrote:
Meanwhile, my 920 which I bought as a manufacturer refurbished second about 4 years ago continues to work flawlessly. I've all the various Garmins I've owned, this one has lasted the longest and is by far the best.

Same, just wish I had swimming HR

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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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why not just get a Forerunner 745?
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Blainyboy8] [ In reply to ]
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I understand how those things could hold appeal. I don't mean to dismiss them, but most of them make no difference to me. I hate music when exercising, I prefer not to wear a watch when not exercising, and the only exercise time I've ever wanted mapping is when cycling which I have with my Edge.

But what is "Climb Pro" exactly? Are there any other useful features?
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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I don't mean to dismiss them... I prefer not to wear a watch when not exercising
I don’t think any of these products are meant for you. They deliver tons of data for folks who like to study their training workouts and apply the data toward optimizing race performance. The 945 and 745 have every imagined fitness analytics and associated feature on the market. Everyone has individual value propositions, so ask what are yours, and does one of these watches deliver capabilities in that area.

ClimbPro is also on the newer Edge computers. It analyzes your planned course and gives you climb pop-up screens for meaningful climbs. It is fantastic when you are doing a challenging routes with legit climbs. It is one of my favorite new features in recent years.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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The 945 and 745 have every imagined fitness analytics and associated feature on the market.

now there's the rub - what have the boffins at garmin imagined up for the 955 that we don't currently know we need?
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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ClimbPro is also on the newer Edge computers. It analyzes your planned course and gives you climb pop-up screens for meaningful climbs. It is fantastic when you are doing a challenging routes with legit climbs. It is one of my favorite new features in recent years.

Ah, OK, I've got that on my Edge 530. (At least I *think* that's what it is). You're right though the other stuff, I don't need. I'm still gonna hope against hope that they give me a big square screen option on the next one. My 920 isn't going to live forever
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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JoeO wrote:
I've got that on my Edge 530. (At least I *think* that's what it is). You're right though the other stuff, I don't need. I'm still gonna hope against hope that they give me a big square screen option on the next one. My 920 isn't going to live forever
ClimbPro has been on the 530 for about a year. It is awesome. But, it only shows up when you ride an uploaded course.

I think the square screen is long gone. Every other device is round now, except for the Apple Watch.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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I think the square screen is long gone. Every other device is round now, except for the Apple Watch.

Which is too bad. Round makes sense for an analog watch where dials go in a circle and the internals are concentric. But for a data screen, round is dumb for the same reason we don't have round computer monitors
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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exxxviii wrote:

I think the square screen is long gone. Every other device is round now, except for the Apple Watch.

This recently released from Garmin https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/707174

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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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Amnesia wrote:
My 935 just crapped itself after some very loyal service.
Happy to shell out now for a 945 but if a new model is imminent would prefer to hold off.
I realize garmin tends to keep things pretty tight....but if anyone has any advice please feel free to share!!

I'm in the same position. My 935 is 3.5 year's old, and stopped working. I did a full factory reset, and it now works again, but not well in the pool.... I think the issue is water ingress on the button seals. I really don't want to buy a 945 if a new model is being launched soon. Luckily, I managed to buy a Garmin Swim 2 half price. I use the Swim 2 in the pool, and my 935 for all other sports.

I think that the 955 could be released at CES in January. If not, the normal 2 year cycle would see a launch in April 2021. My first event will be IM Lanzarote, and hopefully will get it before then

I've been impressed with the Swim 2 so far. I love its small form factor, it feels nicer to use when swimming. I also like the swimming wrist strap HRM.... I hated the Swimming chest strap on the 935, and rarely used it. I know that the 945 also has wrist HRM for swimming.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [mattsurf] [ In reply to ]
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mattsurf wrote:
Amnesia wrote:
My 935 just crapped itself after some very loyal service.
Happy to shell out now for a 945 but if a new model is imminent would prefer to hold off.
I realize garmin tends to keep things pretty tight....but if anyone has any advice please feel free to share!!


I'm in the same position. My 935 is 3.5 year's old, and stopped working. I did a full factory reset, and it now works again, but not well in the pool.... I think the issue is water ingress on the button seals. I really don't want to buy a 945 if a new model is being launched soon. Luckily, I managed to buy a Garmin Swim 2 half price. I use the Swim 2 in the pool, and my 935 for all other sports.

I think that the 955 could be released at CES in January. If not, the normal 2 year cycle would see a launch in April 2021. My first event will be IM Lanzarote, and hopefully will get it before then

I've been impressed with the Swim 2 so far. I love its small form factor, it feels nicer to use when swimming. I also like the swimming wrist strap HRM.... I hated the Swimming chest strap on the 935, and rarely used it. I know that the 945 also has wrist HRM for swimming.

Thanks mate, what is the size comparison like between the 935 and Swim 2?
Whilst I have lived without it, the ability to track heart rate during swimming would be a bonus!
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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Amnesia wrote:
mattsurf wrote:
Amnesia wrote:
My 935 just crapped itself after some very loyal service.
Happy to shell out now for a 945 but if a new model is imminent would prefer to hold off.
I realize garmin tends to keep things pretty tight....but if anyone has any advice please feel free to share!!


I'm in the same position. My 935 is 3.5 year's old, and stopped working. I did a full factory reset, and it now works again, but not well in the pool.... I think the issue is water ingress on the button seals. I really don't want to buy a 945 if a new model is being launched soon. Luckily, I managed to buy a Garmin Swim 2 half price. I use the Swim 2 in the pool, and my 935 for all other sports.

I think that the 955 could be released at CES in January. If not, the normal 2 year cycle would see a launch in April 2021. My first event will be IM Lanzarote, and hopefully will get it before then

I've been impressed with the Swim 2 so far. I love its small form factor, it feels nicer to use when swimming. I also like the swimming wrist strap HRM.... I hated the Swimming chest strap on the 935, and rarely used it. I know that the 945 also has wrist HRM for swimming.


Thanks mate, what is the size comparison like between the 935 and Swim 2?
Whilst I have lived without it, the ability to track heart rate during swimming would be a bonus!

935 is 47mm diameter, 14.3mm thick
Swim2 is 42mm diameter, 11.7mm thich

Swim2 volume is 35% less than 935

My swim2 is white, so my friends tell me I am wearing a ladies watch... doesn't bother me at all
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [pk1] [ In reply to ]
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pk1 wrote:
exxxviii wrote:
The 945 and 745 have every imagined fitness analytics and associated feature on the market.

now there's the rub - what have the boffins at garmin imagined up for the 955 that we don't currently know we need?

Reliable wrist HR
Wrist blood oxygen
Solar charging
Battery life
Speakers
Micro SD port
Cup holder
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [jaretj] [ In reply to ]
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jaretj wrote:
Reliable wrist HR
Wrist blood oxygen
Solar charging
Battery life
Speakers
Micro SD port
Cup holder
They actually have #1 and #2 in the 945 already, and they are pretty cool. (Despite what DCR says about Garmin's Pulse Ox.) And the battery life is pretty good, but not 100 mile ultra good. I still run with an external HRM, but it really is not essential with the 945 like it was with prior devices.

I am super curious what they might bring in the 955 that could support its rumored price increase. LTE is a non-starter for me. I have had almost every generation Apple Watch, and I have never wanted their LTE versions. I cannot imagine a universe where I would want it on a multisport watch.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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You can't do blood oxygen during an activity
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [jaretj] [ In reply to ]
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The feature I want is nighttime heart rate variability. Currently, you can do this with a strap while you're sitting still for 1 minute. The apple watch can do it while you sleep through the optical sensor.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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Amnesia wrote:
HuffNPuff wrote:
Meanwhile, my 920 which I bought as a manufacturer refurbished second about 4 years ago continues to work flawlessly. I've all the various Garmins I've owned, this one has lasted the longest and is by far the best.


My 920 died a slow death through what looks like water ingress.....was such a great watch.

My 910 just died last week. I bought a 945. My wife's 910 died two years ago and she has the 935 (its still going strong). There isn't much difference in the 935 and 945. I suspect it will be the same between a 945 and 955.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Rideon77] [ In reply to ]
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Everyone is talking 935, 945, 955, why is there no love for the Fenix series? The Fenix 6 series does a lot of what you guys are talking about in this thread.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [jpay] [ In reply to ]
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jpay wrote:
Everyone is talking 935, 945, 955, why is there no love for the Fenix series? The Fenix 6 series does a lot of what you guys are talking about in this thread.

Size and weight. Plus, I think the comparable Fenix watches cost more.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [jpay] [ In reply to ]
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Ditto above. The Fenix watch internals are identical to the respective 945 & 745 variants. They add fashion and looks at the expense of weight, size, and cost.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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If you don't care about the blood oxygenation measurement or open water swimming, you can get a vivoactive 3 for like $90. It is a rock solid watch, light and with a decent enough battery life (6-7 hours easy with GPS).

Next races on the schedule: IMStG 2022, some local races tbd, IM Florida 2022
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [timbasile] [ In reply to ]
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The feature I want is nighttime heart rate variability. Currently, you can do this with a strap while you're sitting still for 1 minute. The apple watch can do it while you sleep through the optical sensor.

Strictly speaking no watch measures heart rate variability through optical sensors; they measure pulse wave variability. HRV is then ‘guesstimated’from the colour change in the blood as it is pumped through blood vessels. GARMIN do derive HRV, breath rate and Pulse OX from the watch when sleeping or when not moving.

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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [jpay] [ In reply to ]
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jpay wrote:
Everyone is talking 935, 945, 955, why is there no love for the Fenix series? The Fenix 6 series does a lot of what you guys are talking about in this thread.

I have both the 935 and one of the Fenix 5 series, I just find the size and weight of the Fenix series a bit weird compared to the 935 so that has been my go to watch now....
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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I’ve never had a 935 or 945 but I did have a 920 and honestly after wearing my fenix 6 for a day couldn’t tell a difference with the weight. I wanted a better looking everyday watch (920 is pretty ugly, and I had the better looking black and grey one) because I was sick of forgetting my running watch when I wanted to run on my lunch break. But the weight thing is pretty negligible in real world application IMHO.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [mattsurf] [ In reply to ]
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have anyone heard any news if the 955 is coming soon?
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [pabloarc] [ In reply to ]
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End of April will make for 2 years.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [dpd3672] [ In reply to ]
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My 920 XT has been so reliable & seems to do what I need it to--no rush here for a new model. I've had a few quirks that seemed odd here and there & with updates, a few resets....seems to be still working ok.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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You posted 6 months ago and are probably no longer in the market, but it seems like the new Enduro has a number of the features everyone has been talking about that would enhance the 945. So while not the 955, it has multisport, long battery, solar charging, hefty price tag, yada yada
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/702797/pn/010-02408-00#specs


But it is 20% heavier; probably a 20 minute penalty in an Ironman
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [Amnesia] [ In reply to ]
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I have my 935 on right now. Love that thing. But if it died I’d either go COROS or 945. No sense in waiting an undetermined amount of time

I still lapped everyone on the couch!
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [jpay] [ In reply to ]
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jpay wrote:
I’ve never had a 935 or 945 but I did have a 920 and honestly after wearing my fenix 6 for a day couldn’t tell a difference with the weight. I wanted a better looking everyday watch (920 is pretty ugly, and I had the better looking black and grey one) because I was sick of forgetting my running watch when I wanted to run on my lunch break. But the weight thing is pretty negligible in real world application IMHO.

I love my fenix 6x too and use it as daily watch as well as for training and races. The only disadvantage is indeed the screen which is hard to read in poor light conditions. You have these nice analogue watchfaces which look beautiful in a display under lamps in the watch-shop, but at home inside you can hardly see them.
I am waiting for an AMOLED screen but I also want to keep the 20-hour GPS capacity and the couple of weeks of watch-time.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [longtrousers] [ In reply to ]
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longtrousers wrote:
jpay wrote:
I’ve never had a 935 or 945 but I did have a 920 and honestly after wearing my fenix 6 for a day couldn’t tell a difference with the weight. I wanted a better looking everyday watch (920 is pretty ugly, and I had the better looking black and grey one) because I was sick of forgetting my running watch when I wanted to run on my lunch break. But the weight thing is pretty negligible in real world application IMHO.


I love my fenix 6x too and use it as daily watch as well as for training and races. The only disadvantage is indeed the screen which is hard to read in poor light conditions. You have these nice analogue watchfaces which look beautiful in a display under lamps in the watch-shop, but at home inside you can hardly see them.
I am waiting for an AMOLED screen but I also want to keep the 20-hour GPS capacity and the couple of weeks of watch-time.

I've grown to love my vivoactive 4 so much that I stopped pining for the 935/945xt at all. It is light and I can get 7 hours out of the battery with gps on if lower the brightness a bit

The only 2 things it is does not do is

1. open water swimming, but my 920xt is still good for that.
2. power meter integration - but I have my edge for that

Don't see any reason to plunk down $500.

Next races on the schedule: IMStG 2022, some local races tbd, IM Florida 2022
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [alex_korr] [ In reply to ]
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And the vivoactive does not do multisport if you want to use a watch to time an entire triathlon.
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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And the vivoactive does not do multisport if you want to use a watch to time an entire triathlon.

That's true, but I always found the multisport mode to be a fairly useless feature. Just my 2 cents.

Next races on the schedule: IMStG 2022, some local races tbd, IM Florida 2022
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [alex_korr] [ In reply to ]
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True, I only used that feature once in 2020. :(
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [exxxviii] [ In reply to ]
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I don't understand why every GPS watch does not have a full mulitsport profile. It must be the easiest thing in the world to program - if the watch can do swim, bike, run then linking them together is easy. The *only* reason is market differentiation / pricing. A shame. My 920XT has been sorta fine - one replacement under warranty for a wonky barometer and multiple meltdowns requiring a factory reset. But replacing it with a millionaire's GPS watch? Not going to happen. When the 920XT goes claws up, I'll be buying a Coros or similar...
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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
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HuffNPuff wrote:
Meanwhile, my 920 which I bought as a manufacturer refurbished second about 4 years ago continues to work flawlessly. I've all the various Garmins I've owned, this one has lasted the longest and is by far the best.

Same here. I'm dreading the day that I'm forced to "upgrade".

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Re: How long til the 945 is replaced? [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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JoeO wrote:
Tom_hampton wrote:
HuffNPuff wrote:
Meanwhile, my 920 which I bought as a manufacturer refurbished second about 4 years ago continues to work flawlessly. I've all the various Garmins I've owned, this one has lasted the longest and is by far the best.


This is my problem. Same as you....bought my refurbed in Sept 2016. The damn thing won't quit working, and it does everything I *need* it to do. It works every damn day, no matter what. Even my friggin' altimeter still works.

So, I have no justifiable excuse to "have to get a new watch". "N+1" notwithstanding, of course.


Mine too. But to me it has the added benefit of a rectangular screen. I hate the circular ones. I'm hoping Garmin brings back the rectangular look in the 955

I couldn't agree more. The rectangular form probably optimizes the size of the digits in 4-screen mode, but I also just really like the unique aesthetic of it.

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