Hoka usually run 1/2 to 1 full size large depending on the model. I am not familiar with the Clayton, but I usually start at 1/2 size lower. You may also want to consider the Mizuno Wave Sky Waveknit or the Salming Greyhound as they are quite cushioned as well. The Mizuno would be a higher drop shoe, but the Salming is in the same 4 degree ballpark as the Kinvara. I do like the Greyhounds a ton and train in them often, as I'm an ambassador. If you want to try them, let me know.

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Clayton 2's aren't made anymore, altough you can still find some online and in the Ironman Webstore. I now use the Hoka Mach… A bit less "dynamic" than the Clayton 2, but this shoe helped fix many problems with my feet/ankles/hips...

I use Claytons and Cliftons for training all the time and I definitely recommend Clifton 1 or 2 for you. Clayton is hard compared to Clifton. They are true to size as far as I'm concerned. I had a chance to take a look at new Rincon and they were so light with a lot fo cushions. You might want to try them as well. Clifton 2 are out of production, but you can still find them if you are not looking for specific color. Good luck!!

I've run in Kinvaras and Claytons (1 and 2). I found them to be very similar in size. Claytons might run 1/4 size larger, or maybe it's just a smidge wider. As others have said, they're not in production, and there's not an obvious successor to the Clayton from Hoka. Despite what another poster said, I found the Clayton to be better-cushioned than the Cliftons, maybe because the Clayton's rocker smooths the ride out. Cliftons felt a little clunky to me. YMMV.

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