Interesting
Basically with the Morftec in config "basebar" you can put your head at the place of the aerobar, and be in very optimal egg position

Do you swim and run in the trip socks? Or are those "just" compression socks?

They are the Bioracer Aero Tube - https://www.bioracer.com/...ar-concept-aero-tube

Not compression, just aero. I did not try a test without them, as the guys in the tunnel said that people generally test better with them. I had 2 hours in the tunnel and we tested a lot of different things, but stil got short on time.

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I need one bottle with all my nutrition for 180k (usually the aero bottle on the frame) and I need a place to put a regular bottle that I pick up on aid stations. If I get a front hydration solution I can put water in it and put the bottle as it is emptied in the bottle behind the seat until liter zone. Where should my nutrition bottle go then? Is there another bottle faster than the Xlab TT? BTW, it must be able to see thru as I have control over how much nutrition I have gotten in.

I have thought about making the integrated shoe covers actually, but don't see that happening in the immediate future. Any other solutions?

I got the valve extenders from Enves own tubeless kit. Is it anything to gain by changing that on? The ones one the picture are regular tubes with too long valves as I was not able to put on the tires in time.

Riding 1x was one of my ambitions but I could not get the math together as I am riding hilly races. In Norseman I am a lot of the long uphills on 39/11 and on 53/11 on the downhills. Changing back and forth from race to race seems like a lot of hassle as well, but I don't know as I have never tried it.

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I tested the following helmets:

• Kask Mistral
• LG P09
• Endura Drag2Zero
• Giro Airhead taped (ventilation and under the tail)
• Giro Airhead
• Specialized S-Works

The list is arranged after performance with only 2 watts difference with Mistral and P09

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Matt Hanson has tested a ton of hydration options on his PRSix at the velodrome, and he uses a Torhans VR on his seat tube...I doubt that's by accident, so perhaps another option for you to explore.

Interesting. What order did you test in? Did you establish equipment first or position first?

The Torhans VR is not officially available in Europe and I heard is not very leakproof. It has 590 ml which is about the same as the xlab aero tt has.
I do not know if the cage holds the bottle well at vibrations, the xlab aero tt cage holds alledgedly very good.

Do you run in them as well? Compressions socks tend to lower on my calves, or are otherwise annoying. Would give this a try, especially if it save me seconds on the bike :)

Had a look to the site, but impossible to buy (or get a price).

No triathlon product on their webshop, no triathlon products on other sites, no shop 100km around Paris, ...

Funny to develop products and not sell them. Too recent ?

Is the P09 custom paint? I've been wanting them to make a blacked out version!

I also doubt his solution is an accident, but he is sponsored by Torhans and I am not sure what other things he tested or if he did a compromise a small aero gain for a potential economical benefit.

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No, it is stock and I got it in 2016. A very good helmet btw.

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I have no clue how recent they are, but I got passed on the bike by a very fast guy during Ironman Barcelona with them and knew he was a good bike who knew what he was doing. Therefor I decided to give them a try, but I got them thru their Norwegian distributor.

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I just got the wind tunnel data so now I can reply better to questions. This is my fastest position with a 1-minute average CdA of 0,1748. Measured in the new Boardman Wind Tunnel at 5 degrees yaw.

And yes, the aerobar extentions are too long, but we would not cut them too much before the fit.

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The only thing I really changed regarding the position was rasing the arm angle. Does it work over 180k? We will find out in Patagonman 9.December ;)

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That's a very low cda. Eyeballing your fit, normally I would say you should consider adding a bit more reach but it appears that you have a pretty good "shrug" despite having your elbows relatively far back. One thing I would suggest just from a practical/comfort standpoint are the angled armrests from Watt Shop:

https://www.shopforwatts.co.uk/.../dirtyaero-arm-rests

Thanks Allan for the info and pictures.

Several questions and comments arise :

0) congrats for the result. Impressive !

1) What is the black "thing" below the bars, half round, looks like a water tank ?
Significant impact on CdA ?

2) 0.175 is very very low. The lower CdA I knew for a man is Dan Bigham (now part of Huub Wattbike,) also CdA 0.175
But I guess it was in pursuit config, may be lower than its TT position, and with double disk.
I was expecting for you around .185 at best, with your non-disk wheels and LD may be higher position

3) I'm surprised this CdA is "at 5° yaw". Is CdA calculated relative to full wind speed, or only the "bike direction" component of the wind (x cos (5°))?

4) Did you test with greater reach (so more angled upper arms) ?

Thanks again for sharing.

Nothing valuable to add other than to say thanks for sharing, hoping you get some good debate we can all learn from.

Dan

he doesn't need angled pads because he hasn't angled his arms

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In my experience, an arm setup like the one he shows in this post (above) would tend to slip down/back. If he had more reach that would not be the case. Just my $0.02

Hello Allanhov and All,

I market some items through View-Speed http://www.view-speed.com/ that might help ..... and warrant your consideration ....

With View-Speed Cyclops glasses you can keep a lower head position and still see forward quite well.

It is worth about a 1 mph improvement in the wind tunnel at 20 mph.

The glasses might be illegal for Ironman races (no mirror rule) since a prism is used for forward vision... keeping in mind the intent of the ruling is to prevent a cyclist from using a mirror to see behind ..... to avoid drafting when marshals are near. Should check with race director if entered in an Ironman race before using the glasses.

The View-Speed shoe modification (only with Speedplay pedals) (Measured lowering of drag in San Diego Low Speed Wind Tunnel) and with the crepe sole you can run in them for short distandes.

What stem did you use for the Morf bars? I have a set and I will mount them soon ..... looking at stem choices for a P5.

Which position is faster for descending with Morf bars?





Also what is mounted under the Morf bars on your set up that looks like it would clean up airflow?

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1 - It is a 3D printed water bottle created by Morf-Tech. It was neutral regarding aerodynamics in my cases.

2- I cannot guarantuee how correct the numbers in the Boardman tunnel was, but compared to the other pure time trailist they have tested it was right up there with the best ones. Verification will come with the testing with the Notio.

3 - I forgot to ask why they tested at 5 degree yaw, but my bike was position at 5 degree and the wind speed was 45 km/h

4 - I testet full mantis with identical drag and a horrible feeling. See pic

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Actually, I feel I would prefer a better support with my elbows. On Friday I will meet up with a guy who can make custom made parts of all kinds of materials. Hopefully he will have some spacers to make the pads level, or cups. We can make other cool things as well :D

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I agree. Like I said, we will make a custom made solution to this.

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