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Recent posts on here about heart health have got me thinking

Please no judge. Im 35 and haven’t been to a doctor in probably 10 years.

Do I just go see a primary care doc and ask for a physical and heart scans?
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Re: Health checkup [mvenneta] [ In reply to ]
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Check with your insurance company to determine which doctors are part of their plan.
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Re: Health checkup [jimatbeyond] [ In reply to ]
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What kind is doctor do I go to for these tests? Is it a cardiologist that I’d want to go see?
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Re: Health checkup [mvenneta] [ In reply to ]
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You will need to start with a general practitioner and then ask him/her what tests are paid for by insurance.
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Re: Health checkup [jimatbeyond] [ In reply to ]
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Let’s assume money / insurance aren’t an issue

I feel pretty reckless at the moment based on the preventative stuff many other people are doing.
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Re: Health checkup [mvenneta] [ In reply to ]
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If you are looking to check mainly just the heart functions, then yeah a cardiologist would do the trick. Explain to him what your regimen is like and that you're just checking to see if everything is in order.

They'll do ultrasounds, stress tests and possibly a monitor you wear for a day which they'll analyze the results on.

I'd go to a general practitioner too just to get all the bases covered with everything.
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Re: Health checkup [mvenneta] [ In reply to ]
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If you have health insurance most plans pay for a yearly physical at no charge these days. I’d start there.

Let food be thy medicine...
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Re: Health checkup [JackStraw13] [ In reply to ]
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This is where I get every year ... tomorrow I’m going to sign up for an appointment and get a check up
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Re: Health checkup [mvenneta] [ In reply to ]
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You should still start with a primary care doctor. They are like your "health hub". IMO it should be a very personal relationship for the best care. They'll probably start with a physical, go over your personal health history, your family health history, and send you off to have some general blood work done. Typically, this is all covered by insurance as Preventative Care, but definitely double check your policy. You should also mention you do endurance sports, and any oddities you've noticed that come from that (low sex drive, low energy, etc). Those can be indicators that something might be off. Or not. I actually just had my physical today my doc is adding Vitamin D, iron, and Testosterone to my blood test this time around. Mostly just for the data points though.

One thing I did when looking for my PC is finding one that specialized in sports medicine and treating athletes. They tend to have a better understanding of the lifestyle and what goes along with it. And when you run into an issue their first response isn't to stop doing said activity.

If you end up needing something special, they will refer you to a specialist. Again, it is also good, but not as important, to find a doc that understands an active lifestyle.

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Re: Health checkup [gmh39] [ In reply to ]
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gmh39 wrote:
You should still start with a primary care doctor. They are like your "health hub". IMO it should be a very personal relationship for the best care. They'll probably start with a physical, go over your personal health history, your family health history, and send you off to have some general blood work done. Typically, this is all covered by insurance as Preventative Care, but definitely double check your policy. You should also mention you do endurance sports, and any oddities you've noticed that come from that (low sex drive, low energy, etc). Those can be indicators that something might be off. Or not. I actually just had my physical today my doc is adding Vitamin D, iron, and Testosterone to my blood test this time around. Mostly just for the data points though.

One thing I did when looking for my PC is finding one that specialized in sports medicine and treating athletes. They tend to have a better understanding of the lifestyle and what goes along with it. And when you run into an issue their first response isn't to stop doing said activity.

If you end up needing something special, they will refer you to a specialist. Again, it is also good, but not as important, to find a doc that understands an active lifestyle.

All this. Especially the part about finding a doctor that specializes in primary care for athletes or whatever else your issues or concerns are. And come to that session armed with a list of questions / concerns, and make sure the Dr spends time talking to you about each of those (or schedules a tele-visit ahead of the physical proper to talk through these - things are a little different in the Time of COVID).
It's also worth asking what the standard physical bloodwork will measure, and if there is a marker you've seen discussed or you're concerned about, if it's covered in the standard physical. If not, find out why not and if they can add it. Good luck!
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Re: Health checkup [mvenneta] [ In reply to ]
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I'm 48. I haven't visited a doctor since I started my new job 8 years ago. (Its was required at my last job to operate commercial equipment)

I feel fine so I roll the dice. The ACA caused me to loose my healthcare so I switched jobs but its still to much out of my annual income so I dropped healthcare and rolled the dice.

Whatever. I can smoke 98% of the people my age so I must be doing fine. If I die I die. I know where I'm going and whose I am.
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Re: Health checkup [ScoutMac187] [ In reply to ]
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I'm 48. I haven't visited a doctor since I started my new job 8 years ago. (Its was required at my last job to operate commercial equipment)

I feel fine so I roll the dice. The ACA caused me to loose my healthcare so I switched jobs but its still to much out of my annual income so I dropped healthcare and rolled the dice.

Whatever. I can smoke 98% of the people my age so I must be doing fine. If I die I die. I know where I'm going and whose I am.

not sure if you are joking or not, but its not just if you die painlessly (which is bad enough for your family) - you could have an event that you survive but left in a terrible health condition. you and your family can go into massive debt; you can lose all your assets, etc. I don't think I would be able to sleep at night if I did not have health insurance
this is totally unrelated to endurance sports, its just the way the system is in this country
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Re: Health checkup [ScoutMac187] [ In reply to ]
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I am sorry you changed jobs, and I hope you find a way to get the care you need
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Re: Health checkup [dgutstadt] [ In reply to ]
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Not joking at all. The option of paying for health insurance I cant afford to use, or feeding my family is a pretty easy one.

The what if factor doesn't even make me blink. I can't control it so why worry. As a veteran I get a hole in the ground so there's that.

As far as assets what do I even own? The bank owns the house and everything else is worth nothing. That's life.
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Re: Health checkup [mvenneta] [ In reply to ]
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mvenneta wrote:
Recent posts on here about heart health have got me thinking

Please no judge. Im 35 and haven’t been to a doctor in probably 10 years.

Do I just go see a primary care doc and ask for a physical and heart scans?


Luckily, I was able to go to a cardiologist without a referral. I am an MD but I never tell them that when I call for an appointment.

What got me scared were two different incidents involving very healthy looking athletes similar in age to me. First one was at IM Louisville. I was standing in the swim start line when they came running up the walkway performing CPR on a guy on the gurney. I don't believe he lived. The second situation was a cycling event where I noticed a large crowd around a guy, off to the side of the road. For some reason, I thought "Hmm, I better go see what's happening". This 40 something year old guy was laying there, not breathing, with bluish lips. I immediately started CPR and had someone call 911.

After these two events, I went to the cardiologist and flat out said "hey, I am going to admit right now that I am being very paranoid but I want to make sure my heart if fine so I don't suddenly collapse". He did an EKG, a 24 monitor, and then an echocardiogram. Luckily all negative.
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Re: Health checkup [EyeRunMD] [ In reply to ]
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EyeRunMD wrote:
He did an EKG, a 24 monitor, and then an echocardiogram. Luckily all negative.
Thanks for sharing your experience as a doc and a patient!

How about screening for coronary artery disease? A coronary calcium scan has been suggested in other threads and I'm curious why you didn't go that route. I'm assuming you've had cholesterol blood work, so maybe not concerned based on that?
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Re: Health checkup [HNCsurvivor] [ In reply to ]
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EyeRunMD wrote:
He did an EKG, a 24 monitor, and then an echocardiogram. Luckily all negative.

Thanks for sharing your experience as a doc and a patient!

How about screening for coronary artery disease? A coronary calcium scan has been suggested in other threads and I'm curious why you didn't go that route. I'm assuming you've had cholesterol blood work, so maybe not concerned based on that?


When I had all this testing done, I guess it was 8-9 years ago. My blood lipids have always been great so the heart doc went with the other tests instead. But, it still may not be a bad idea. Now that I’m in my 50s, it seems I run into a lot of very healthy looking cyclists my age who have had stents or coronary bypass surgery. You just never know.
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Re: Health checkup [HNCsurvivor] [ In reply to ]
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HNCsurvivor wrote:
EyeRunMD wrote:
He did an EKG, a 24 monitor, and then an echocardiogram. Luckily all negative.

Thanks for sharing your experience as a doc and a patient!

How about screening for coronary artery disease? A coronary calcium scan has been suggested in other threads and I'm curious why you didn't go that route. I'm assuming you've had cholesterol blood work, so maybe not concerned based on that?


By the way, does HNCsurvivor stand for head and neck cancer survivor???
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Re: Health checkup [EyeRunMD] [ In reply to ]
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EyeRunMD wrote:

By the way, does HNCsurvivor stand for head and neck cancer survivor???

Yep, stage 4 HPV Tonsil cancer (not as deadly as other stage 4 cancers). The survivor name was a bit optimistic when I picked it, but I just hit my fifth anniversary, so hopefully, good to go!

One lesson for this thread is not to ignore medical issues when if they pop up. Stuff starts happening as we get older. Some of that stuff can be critical to address immediately.

Like the OP, I hadn't been to a doc for a decade, but when I got a big lump on my neck, I did go. If I ignored it for too long, I might not be here now. My cancer treatment was horrendous (surgery, radiation & chemo), but being an endurance sport athlete for decades helped me, well, endure it.

Long story longer, my cancer diagnosis scans incidentally found I had an aortic aneurysm. Then my subsequent scans tracking my aneurysm found a benign tumor (myxoma) had grown on my heart post-cancer treatment. So, I had open-heart surgery to fix both those in 2017. Not fun, but I'm super fortunate. But for my cancer diagnosis, my undetected aneurysm or cardiac tumor probably would have killed me eventually.

I'm glad to be here, and though it's been a long haul, I've been able to get back to a pretty good level of fitness. I even podiumed in a local 5K at 25:30 when nobody fast showed up. I was hoping to do my first Tri post all this crap last year, but you know, COVID. I'm signed up for a sprint in August and on my training plan!
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Re: Health checkup [HNCsurvivor] [ In reply to ]
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HNCsurvivor wrote:
EyeRunMD wrote:

By the way, does HNCsurvivor stand for head and neck cancer survivor???

Yep, stage 4 HPV Tonsil cancer (not as deadly as other stage 4 cancers). The survivor name was a bit optimistic when I picked it, but I just hit my fifth anniversary, so hopefully, good to go!

One lesson for this thread is not to ignore medical issues when if they pop up. Stuff starts happening as we get older. Some of that stuff can be critical to address immediately.

Like the OP, I hadn't been to a doc for a decade, but when I got a big lump on my neck, I did go. If I ignored it for too long, I might not be here now. My cancer treatment was horrendous (surgery, radiation & chemo), but being an endurance sport athlete for decades helped me, well, endure it.

Long story longer, my cancer diagnosis scans incidentally found I had an aortic aneurysm. Then my subsequent scans tracking my aneurysm found a benign tumor (myxoma) had grown on my heart post-cancer treatment. So, I had open-heart surgery to fix both those in 2017. Not fun, but I'm super fortunate. But for my cancer diagnosis, my undetected aneurysm or cardiac tumor probably would have killed me eventually.

I'm glad to be here, and though it's been a long haul, I've been able to get back to a pretty good level of fitness. I even podiumed in a local 5K at 25:30 when nobody fast showed up. I was hoping to do my first Tri post all this crap last year, but you know, COVID. I'm signed up for a sprint in August and on my training plan!


That is incredible. Well, I’m gonna call you a survivor because I’m rooting for you all the way. Don’t know if you believe in a higher power or not but I will keep you in my prayers as well.

I’ve just recently had a squamous cell carcinoma cut off next to my nose. Had to have Mohs surgery and it came back as an advance type, which scares the ever living crap out of me. So, now on to CT scans to rule out spread. Never expected this at all from a little bump that popped up on my face. If I’d not cut it shaving, and then it not heal up very quickly, I probably would’ve ignored it longer.

I’m sure, when you first received your diagnosis of Stage 4 cancer, it shook you to your core. It’s just the unknown of it all.
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Re: Health checkup [HNCsurvivor] [ In reply to ]
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That's great news! 5 yrs is the mark...and I do agree that fit patients do better-always.



My BIL was diagnosed shortly after you (*by me) after I noted he had neck swelling at a party at our house. He had mets to lung by then but it was also a HNC. He is at 4 yrs now and has had clear scans but I can tell you when he told me that he had noticed that 'lump' a few months prior to my noticing it, my heart sank.

People should realize that preventative medicine is best, but addressing concerns that are new and just not right, well, that shouldn't take a lot of insight-just a phone call. Best to be reassured if it's nothing, but if it is something-find it and fix it.

Best of luck in your sprint race. Let us know how it went.
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dtoce wrote:
That's great news! 5 yrs is the mark...and I do agree that fit patients do better-always.



My BIL was diagnosed shortly after you (*by me) after I noted he had neck swelling at a party at our house. He had mets to lung by then but it was also a HNC. He is at 4 yrs now and has had clear scans but I can tell you when he told me that he had noticed that 'lump' a few months prior to my noticing it, my heart sank.

People should realize that preventative medicine is best, but addressing concerns that are new and just not right, well, that shouldn't take a lot of insight-just a phone call. Best to be reassured if it's nothing, but if it is something-find it and fix it.

Best of luck in your sprint race. Let us know how it went.


Did your BIL have the same type of cancer as HNCsurvivor?
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Re: Health checkup [ScoutMac187] [ In reply to ]
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I'm 48. I haven't visited a doctor since I started my new job 8 years ago. (Its was required at my last job to operate commercial equipment)

I feel fine so I roll the dice. The ACA caused me to loose my healthcare so I switched jobs but its still to much out of my annual income so I dropped healthcare and rolled the dice.

Whatever. I can smoke 98% of the people my age so I must be doing fine. If I die I die. I know where I'm going and whose I am.

I'm 46, could also outperform those around me (with the results to prove it), eat healthy and promote health to others. And I'm the guy that felt perfectly fine and then flatlined on a run two weeks ago and scared the crap out of my family. I survived simply because someone saw me collapse and grabbed two security gaurds who were CPR certified that kept me going till the EMTs could get there. Don't be dumb. I felt like I was on top of the world health wise... and I almost didn't make it.

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Re: Health checkup [EyeRunMD] [ In reply to ]
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IDK what he has specifically

My BIL has oropharyngeal (a type of HNC) associated w HPV.
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Re: Health checkup [gregtay] [ In reply to ]
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Just as an additional data point, about 5 years ago I saw my primary care MD for my yearly checkup in the morning - everything looked fine. That afternoon I was in complete cardiac arrest and would be dead if not for an off duty EMT at the gym. Life's a funny thing...

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