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Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL
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Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [elf6c]
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Another analysis on the Zipp dimples... Remarkably similar to mine.
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Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [hambini]
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1:04:25 in the video is where the relevant information is.
The more people I encounter the more I love my cats.
The more people I encounter the more I love my cats.
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [Slug]
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People who is defending Zipp or any brand of wheels ownership should come forward (at least for once) and expose their true reasons to own a set. A fantastic look, dimples, waves on rims, resale value, whatever. Being a bully and try to make a fool some engineer study it just makes you look as a marketing sheep. Also a concepts or paraphrasing war doesnāt count as well. Wikipedia canāt match a degree or aerospace industry. Is Hambini a bully, or unpopular to some due his vocabulary? maybe! But at least heās published a full study for free with lots of data for everybodyās benefit or fun. And no! If you didnāt hire the guy to make the study, you canāt keep asking for validation, wind tunnel pictures or confidential information to satisfy your ego. The only way you can contradict his study is to produce a similar or better study to proof him wrong.
Personally Iām thinking to get a new Zipp wheelset and even itās been proven by Hambini or other companies that are not the fastest Iāll probably get those only because of the resale value, as Iām aware thereās a lot of sheep out there.
Personally Iām thinking to get a new Zipp wheelset and even itās been proven by Hambini or other companies that are not the fastest Iāll probably get those only because of the resale value, as Iām aware thereās a lot of sheep out there.
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [hambini]
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This is a great video everyone should listen to the QA at the end.
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [Jorgan]
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Jorgan wrote:
I have never heard that term used in a derogatory sense in the UK; afaik it has a different meaning related to dance/music, and even that is a very obscure use.Name calling or taking the piss out of someoneās name is not very mature and bang out of order regardless of which country you are in. Racism is in the eye of the beholder ...one mans banter is another mans abuse. Only the person calling names can tell you if his ābanterā had a racial overtone or not if itās subtle enough. Either way letās not resort to name calling and respect one another.
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [cantswim24]
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The guy you're defending has literally told people to kill themselves. It does kinda go both ways. Definitely far more out of order than making fun of someone's name.
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [MrStealYoKOMs]
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MrStealYoKOMs wrote:
Bruh.... the Boeing 787 Dreamliner is 50% Composite... the aerospace industry is leagues above the bike industry in engineering understanding. If it wasnāt leagues above then why does the cycling marketing teams always call their composites F1 grade or aerospace grade carbon? In aerospace, the stresses of flight are calculated. The part is either over-engineered to last the lifetime of the airframe or designed to last a certain amount of flight hours/pressurization cycles until it needs replacement.
I think your opinion is going to change as you get more experience in the actual world.
I can assure you, I know more about the 787 than you.
You do understand that marketing teams use words for marketing reasons?
There are some areas where aerospace is ahead of cycling and others where it is not. That is not an insult, an engineer would understand exactly why that is true. The industry are driven by different requirements, that pushes advancement in different areas. That is the way technology works.
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [imswimmer328]
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imswimmer328 wrote:
The guy you're defending has literally told people to kill themselves. It does kinda go both ways. Definitely far more out of order than making fun of someone's name.Everyone don't call anyone names and definitely dont kill anyone. Stealing is out of order as well... just be nice
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [cantswim24]
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Thank you for this tread, it makes him even more popular.
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [guillermoD]
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guillermoD wrote:
People who is defending Zipp or any brand of wheels ownership should come forward (at least for once) and expose their true reasons to own a set. A fantastic look, dimples, waves on rims, resale value, whatever. Being a bully and try to make a fool some engineer study it just makes you look as a marketing sheep. Also a concepts or paraphrasing war doesnāt count as well. Wikipedia canāt match a degree or aerospace industry. Is Hambini a bully, or unpopular to some due his vocabulary? maybe! But at least heās published a full study for free with lots of data for everybodyās benefit or fun. And no! If you didnāt hire the guy to make the study, you canāt keep asking for validation, wind tunnel pictures or confidential information to satisfy your ego. The only way you can contradict his study is to produce a similar or better study to proof him wrong. Personally Iām thinking to get a new Zipp wheelset and even itās been proven by Hambini or other companies that are not the fastest Iāll probably get those only because of the resale value, as Iām aware thereās a lot of sheep out there.
What did his study prove?
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [JasoninHalifax]
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JasoninHalifax wrote:
Wait a sec... heās testing the entire system, bike rider and wheels, and getting 2.5% error bars on that system, and then trying to tease out some differences on a small component of that overall system?I said it long ago, but 2.5% error on his wheel test overlaps every wheel but the few very best and the few very worst. And then he has the balls to say āwheel xā is crap. And the data was obtained with one rider, much of it over a single weekend apparently. Then over a period of months as more wheel data got added here and there.
Phd or not, that says a lot.
I truly think the only conclusion he could make was ādeeper rims are fasterā.
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [hambini]
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hambini wrote:
Tries to lecture a PhD Aerospace Engineer about unsteady aerodynamics and accuses him of made up science with no examples... You are out of your depth Ron. Go back to the chemist and get some viagra to stop yourself peeing on your shoes.
This made my day. Speaking of depth...
Hambini: PhD Aerospace Engineer. Uses viagra to not pee on shoes.
I suspect this is not made up science on your part. No need to prove your experimentation on this one.
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Rocket_racing: Nov 24, 19 17:33
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [Rocket_racing]
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Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [Rocket_racing]
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Not that is necessarily proves anything, but there are no publications or patents I can find with hambini as an author/inventor. I'd think that a smart guy like him would have at least one of those
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [gmh39]
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gmh39 wrote:
Now I'm genuinely curious if Viagra is medically used for bladder control. ETA: Hot damn, I think it is!
does that mean its safe to be used tri bike stuff from trigeeks now?
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [gmh39]
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gmh39 wrote:
Now I'm genuinely curious if Viagra is medically used for bladder control. ETA: Hot damn, I think it is!
Yeah, but there is good reason why only cialis is fda approved for bph treatment. I presume it is the same in the uk. How is that for off topic?!? Aero testing and fingers up bums. Hahah.
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [spntrxi]
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spntrxi wrote:
does that mean its safe to be used tri bike stuff from trigeeks now?Nope. Electrolytes and water + bike is a bad combo, independent of the original source. ;-)
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Rocket_racing: Nov 24, 19 20:24
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [elf6c]
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elf6c wrote:
lol how to destroy your credibility in five easy forum pages. . .You mean by intentionally using extreme levels of bad language or insults and passing it off as entertainment so as to create clickbait for the lowest common denominator doesn't ?
(Note: By the way, having a PhD doesn't make or state you as a genius. It's an act of endurance, not an intelligence test. I know plenty of smart engineers who haven't done one. For anyone interested: anyone that has completed one within a UK university is listed within an active database. Here: https://ethos.bl.uk/Home.do?new=1).
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UK Gearmuncher: Nov 25, 19 0:31
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [Rocket_racing]
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Rocket_racing wrote:
I said it long ago, but 2.5% error on his wheel test overlaps every wheel but the few very best and the few very worst. And then he has the balls to say āwheel xā is crap. I truly think the only conclusion he could make was ādeeper rims are fasterā.
Read the last line of this wikipedia page and then familiarise yourself with error bars and statistical insignificance before you spout your mouth as if you are gods gift to statistics.
"A notorious misconception in elementary statistics is that error bars show whether or not a statistically significant difference exists, by checking simply for whether or not the error bars overlap; this is not the case."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_bar
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Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [rruff]
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rruff wrote:
hambini wrote:
You are the one accusing me of making science up. I am asking you to prove the science in my videos is wrong, instead of making some blind BS up with no proof. On the 2.5% error, that's the number, I can't change it and you seem to take offence at it?
Seriously? You are the one saying that everyone in the industry has been doing it wrong for decades, and you are doing it right. I'm cool with that, but you have to back it up with proof. You haven't made the tiniest movement in that direction. Your "evidence" amounts to "I'm a PhD and these are the numbers, don't question me." If you really had a PhD then you'd be well practiced in presenting your research so as to convince other engineers.
The +-2.5% error invalidates your conclusions, yet you still behave as though they are valid. Just another indication that it's all a show.
I'm saying the industry can't make their F***ing mind up. We've had narrow wheels, wide wheels, toroidal wheels, U wheels, V wheels. Then we had a realisation that we spend less time at high yaw angles. The list is endless.
For the 2.5% read this.
Read the last line of this wikipedia page and then familiarise yourself with error bars and statistical insignificance before you spout your mouth as if you are gods gift to statistics.
"A notorious misconception in elementary statistics is that error bars show whether or not a statistically significant difference exists, by checking simply for whether or not the error bars overlap; this is not the case."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_bar
You were an aerospace engineer? Stop pulling a fast one. You are completely clueless.
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Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [hambini]
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Doesn't that contradict this statement from source #5 of the wiki article?
Actually, for purposes of eyeballing a graph, the standard error ranges must be separated by about half the width of the error bars before the difference is significant.
Strava
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Standard errors are typically smaller than confidence intervals. For reasonably large groups, they represent a 68 percent chance that the true mean falls within the range of standard error -- most of the time they are roughly equivalent to a 68% confidence interval. In fact, a crude rule of thumb is that when standard errors overlap, assuming we're talking about two different groups, then the difference between the means for the two groups is not significant. Actually, for purposes of eyeballing a graph, the standard error ranges must be separated by about half the width of the error bars before the difference is significant.
Strava
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [gmh39]
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gmh39 wrote:
Doesn't that contradict this statement from source #5 of the wiki article? Quote:
Standard errors are typically smaller than confidence intervals. For reasonably large groups, they represent a 68 percent chance that the true mean falls within the range of standard error -- most of the time they are roughly equivalent to a 68% confidence interval. In fact, a crude rule of thumb is that when standard errors overlap, assuming we're talking about two different groups, then the difference between the means for the two groups is not significant. Actually, for purposes of eyeballing a graph, the standard error ranges must be separated by about half the width of the error bars before the difference is significant.
Or if you want to get pedantic, if the sample size and standard deviation of the two groups are the same, the standard error of the difference between means is the standard error of the individual mean times the square root of 2 (1.414). So in order to get p<.05 differences, you would need a difference of approximately 1.96 (lets call it 2) Standard Error of the Difference between means. That gives a total gap (in Standard Error of the Mean terms) of 1.414 * 1.96 = 2.77 (lets call it 3 to be conservative). So if you want to eyeball it (what I like to call the inter-occular test), you would need a gap between means of about 3 SE error bars. This is also why if people use 95%CI error bars (1.96 x SEm), and they do NOT overlap, you can know that it will almost certainly be p<.05 since they are nearly 4 SEm apart. Better to be more conservative than less when using inter-occular tests since they don't account for differences in sample size, variance, etc. A little lost power is better than unexpected type 1 errors here.
Full disclosure, I teach introductory behavioral statistics at a university.
Re: Hambini's take on Zipp Dimples ROFL [hambini]
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Why won't you answer the basic questions about the purported letter from Flo's lawyers, or what exactly you believe Slowman's role is in that? That seems pretty foundational to your overall credibility.
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Why won't you answer the basic questions about the purported letter from Flo's lawyers, or what exactly you believe Slowman's role is in that? That seems pretty foundational to your overall credibility.I have emailed Slowman and shown him the email I was referring to as his post indicated he had forgotten about it. It is for him if he chooses to respond and if he wishes to do so in a public forum.
I'm not saying for one second that he was the one behind the lawyer.
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