Dear forum members, Gerard and Dan.
I certainly created a stir here - if i offended Cervelo or anyone else - i apologize.
Apparently i do not have enough knowledge about bike politics, allthough i am leaning quite fast by now.
Here are the facts. :
I am not the guy(or girl) Orang Utan- . Ben in FL : you are wellcome to publice the IP trace and show who you think i am with my name and emailaddress - it cannot have compared with the other guy in any way. ??
My emailaddress is also included in my loginname so Dan allready knows it. However i do work for an American company in Europe.
Does your comment reg. spelling mean that my English grammer is good or bad ? ( have studied English in school for 7 years and hope that the time was well invested. )
Posting in the middle of the US night will happen as i live in Europe and write at 0900AM, which is night for US.
I saw the mentioning of the fork breakage on the national TV teletext news from Reuters. Subsecquently saw the CSC website where the story was posted on the front page in English. Ie. not a rumor but a publicly known fact - even made public on the web by the CSC official people/webmaster/company etc. and probably seen and commented on TV. However there was no more mentioning of the incident other that the fork was broken during a sprint and Julian Dean had to change bikes, i was curious and concerned - why ?.
I was not trying to be malicuos nor to hurt anyone, but honestly i do think that such failures should NOT be kept a secret either - especially when it has allready been publicly announced.
I have indeed considered a Cervelo for quite some time as i wrote, was especially interested in the new Team Sloist as i think it looks very cool and also the colours are identical with my triclub uniform colours. I wrote that i was impressed with Cervelo bikes and i praised Gerard for his earlier tread comments on manufactures who does not test equipment enough and continue to send unsafe equipment on the market.
I wrote in the post that the failure could off-course have happened as a result of damage during installation on the bike, ie. not company related and asked Gerard if he could tell what had actually happened.
I have also earlier read Francois comments on stem failures by the manufacturer DXXX ( don't dare to mention the name) which apparently was ok for posting and was not attacked for hurting companies or whatever.
I was trying to reply to Francois and Carbon that i did not agree that equipment failure was something normal and that you should just expect it. Stem, fork, handlebar, frame failure could cost my life if happening during a high speed decent.
Francois wrote that the failure could have happened during transport, which is off-course correct. Likewise tried to write to Carbon that, yes, apparently the story on the CSC homepage was changed since the morning, i thought it was a co-incidence - untill i hit the post reply button and got : " the tread you are repling to does not exist" ! and saw that the tread was erased and also the CSC webpage has removed the entire story on the stage 2 on Tour of Qatar. Quite an impact i had on the WWW.
All i wanted was to get a response ( and i CERTAINLY did get a response ) from Gerard and some info on what had happened.
I own 4 high quality bikes myself at the moment. European as they are what you get here and much cheaper that "exotic" US/overseas bikes due customs and transport fees etc.
Maybe i should not have mentioned what i ride myself, nor say that i would rethink future purchases due to this ( but i honestly will make this decision for myself untill i get more information on what actually happened and assurance for myself that is not a general problem or a equipment recall case). I did not in any wording encourage others to stay away from the company. But off-course others are entitled to form their own opinion about the case ( at least that is allowed where i live ) and think what they may, as I do myself and make my personal decisions - sometimes intelligent choices, sometimes not so intelligent and more emotionally driven.
I have owned approx 20 high quality bikes during the last 6 years. I usually exchange bikes 2-3 times a year for no other reason that i like to try out new equipment and different brands. I pay for the bikes of my own money and sell the old ones to get some cash back. I write articles on bike equipment and fit on tribikes for a local triclub and i am an active triathlete myself - going to Ironman Austria this year.
The thing that scares me most when riding is the thought of a equipment failure when riding. I usually go for high quality and reliable equipment. I stay away from the lightweight and unproven stuff as the faliure rate is astounding as reported in the media (and also being a big,strong, 188cm/6ft 2", 84kg/185lbs in raceweight, 97kg/214lbs off-season, which sort-of neccesitates the search for bullitproof frames and equipment.
Tom D. will propably have seen the tests during the last years in the German magazine Tour, reporting breakage during test of carbonforks for several wellknown manufactures that could not endure even the lowest km/milage rating and was considered unsafe to ride by the magazine, likewise in the same magazine reporting failures on diff. stems and handlebars. ( don't dare to mention the companies name ). I follow these reportings and it scares me.
Thank you ,Gerard, for your reply on the non-existing post - i think it sounds very assuring and i hope you find the problem not related to your equipment - please let us know.
Now - if i am un-wellcome in this forum i will politely go away again.
Best regards
GreatDane
PS: I am really very curiuos to hear what that IP trace actually shows.
I certainly created a stir here - if i offended Cervelo or anyone else - i apologize.
Apparently i do not have enough knowledge about bike politics, allthough i am leaning quite fast by now.
Here are the facts. :
I am not the guy(or girl) Orang Utan- . Ben in FL : you are wellcome to publice the IP trace and show who you think i am with my name and emailaddress - it cannot have compared with the other guy in any way. ??
My emailaddress is also included in my loginname so Dan allready knows it. However i do work for an American company in Europe.
Does your comment reg. spelling mean that my English grammer is good or bad ? ( have studied English in school for 7 years and hope that the time was well invested. )
Posting in the middle of the US night will happen as i live in Europe and write at 0900AM, which is night for US.
I saw the mentioning of the fork breakage on the national TV teletext news from Reuters. Subsecquently saw the CSC website where the story was posted on the front page in English. Ie. not a rumor but a publicly known fact - even made public on the web by the CSC official people/webmaster/company etc. and probably seen and commented on TV. However there was no more mentioning of the incident other that the fork was broken during a sprint and Julian Dean had to change bikes, i was curious and concerned - why ?.
I was not trying to be malicuos nor to hurt anyone, but honestly i do think that such failures should NOT be kept a secret either - especially when it has allready been publicly announced.
I have indeed considered a Cervelo for quite some time as i wrote, was especially interested in the new Team Sloist as i think it looks very cool and also the colours are identical with my triclub uniform colours. I wrote that i was impressed with Cervelo bikes and i praised Gerard for his earlier tread comments on manufactures who does not test equipment enough and continue to send unsafe equipment on the market.
I wrote in the post that the failure could off-course have happened as a result of damage during installation on the bike, ie. not company related and asked Gerard if he could tell what had actually happened.
I have also earlier read Francois comments on stem failures by the manufacturer DXXX ( don't dare to mention the name) which apparently was ok for posting and was not attacked for hurting companies or whatever.
I was trying to reply to Francois and Carbon that i did not agree that equipment failure was something normal and that you should just expect it. Stem, fork, handlebar, frame failure could cost my life if happening during a high speed decent.
Francois wrote that the failure could have happened during transport, which is off-course correct. Likewise tried to write to Carbon that, yes, apparently the story on the CSC homepage was changed since the morning, i thought it was a co-incidence - untill i hit the post reply button and got : " the tread you are repling to does not exist" ! and saw that the tread was erased and also the CSC webpage has removed the entire story on the stage 2 on Tour of Qatar. Quite an impact i had on the WWW.
All i wanted was to get a response ( and i CERTAINLY did get a response ) from Gerard and some info on what had happened.
I own 4 high quality bikes myself at the moment. European as they are what you get here and much cheaper that "exotic" US/overseas bikes due customs and transport fees etc.
Maybe i should not have mentioned what i ride myself, nor say that i would rethink future purchases due to this ( but i honestly will make this decision for myself untill i get more information on what actually happened and assurance for myself that is not a general problem or a equipment recall case). I did not in any wording encourage others to stay away from the company. But off-course others are entitled to form their own opinion about the case ( at least that is allowed where i live ) and think what they may, as I do myself and make my personal decisions - sometimes intelligent choices, sometimes not so intelligent and more emotionally driven.
I have owned approx 20 high quality bikes during the last 6 years. I usually exchange bikes 2-3 times a year for no other reason that i like to try out new equipment and different brands. I pay for the bikes of my own money and sell the old ones to get some cash back. I write articles on bike equipment and fit on tribikes for a local triclub and i am an active triathlete myself - going to Ironman Austria this year.
The thing that scares me most when riding is the thought of a equipment failure when riding. I usually go for high quality and reliable equipment. I stay away from the lightweight and unproven stuff as the faliure rate is astounding as reported in the media (and also being a big,strong, 188cm/6ft 2", 84kg/185lbs in raceweight, 97kg/214lbs off-season, which sort-of neccesitates the search for bullitproof frames and equipment.
Tom D. will propably have seen the tests during the last years in the German magazine Tour, reporting breakage during test of carbonforks for several wellknown manufactures that could not endure even the lowest km/milage rating and was considered unsafe to ride by the magazine, likewise in the same magazine reporting failures on diff. stems and handlebars. ( don't dare to mention the companies name ). I follow these reportings and it scares me.
Thank you ,Gerard, for your reply on the non-existing post - i think it sounds very assuring and i hope you find the problem not related to your equipment - please let us know.
Now - if i am un-wellcome in this forum i will politely go away again.
Best regards
GreatDane
PS: I am really very curiuos to hear what that IP trace actually shows.