I would love to see what you come up with. I have a second pair of SLXs, that I am planning on playing with. I was partially thinking of only removing 3/4 of the tongue and possibly sewing the bottom 1/4 into a fixed position.

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You might have answered this and sorry if you did but...how do these fit compared to you PIs? Searching the internet for best deal but want to make sure I get the correct size.

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about the same size. I was the same listed shoe size in both.

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Perfect. Thanks again! And if I can save 5-10 watts for these shoes I will buy you a beer if we race each other. Debating Maidson 70.3 but not sure.

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No beers for me generally, but maybe I might make an exception post 70.3 if it is nice sunny day and we can sit on the UNION Terrace.

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Hi TG,

No, not really - I was kind of wondering why someone (i.e. Giro lol) didn't make a tri specific / aero shoe, all the features are out there (either past or present).

I wonder if they actually keep an eye on what people do with their kit and bear it in mind with future designs ?

WD :-)

I haven't tried the SUB6 but I also found the SLX to run smaller than expected, at least in a size 46. I ended up returning them and getting a really good deal on a pair of the LG Signature 84 that are a better fit for my foot.

That said, I really liked the construction of the SLX. The tongue of the LG 84 is very different than the tongue in the SLX. The tongue of the SLX is one piece of the same material, and it's very smooth and weighs almost nothing. The tongue of the LG 84 has a central strip that's smooth like the outside of the shoe but it's stitched into some other, more padded and bulkier fabric on the sides (I can post pics tonight if interested). The reason I bring it up is because I had been thinking of attaching the tongue to the top of the shoe to cover the laces, using some combination of stitching and velcro to make it easy to open and close. But after taking the tongue out there's no way I want to use it to cover the top – I'm pretty sure most of the aero gains would be lost because of the different fabrics and bulkier construction of the tongue. So instead I ordered some Sweet Spot lace covers and will see what I can do with those.

On a related note, anyone who cut out the tongue of their SLX and was going to throw it away I'd be happy to take it off your hands for you. Preferably something in a size 45+.

I got Specialized Warp sleeves and got rid of the laces on my LG L.A. 84s (cheap alternative to the Giro's). I can get into the shoes in about 25 secs incl. getting rid of wrinkles on the sleeves. With the tongue removed (I haven't), you can prolly do better. Flying mount is out of the question though.

can you post picture of that?

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Some pics attached ... 2nd attempt

I fold over the warp sleeve to expose the top of the tongue, otherwise it's too tight to get in. With the sleeve folded over, it's easy to open the shoe to get in (pic 2, using only one hand to widen the shoe). Third pic is the end product after straightening out the wrinkles.

I'm a little late to the party, but thanks ... much appreciated.

so you run those with no laces?
Also how is your cleat positioned? I use mid foot so not sure if that will work out

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Yes, but I will probably put a small elastic lace in there to connect the latch on the tongue to 2 of the lace holes to keep the tongue in place when entering with wet feet. Will probably try this in a B or C race first before I would consider removing the tongue.

My cleat position is pretty vanilla ... I am not an expert on mid foot cleat positioning and whether the LG can facilitate it, but any further back I think I would have to take off the cleats and put the end of the sleeves under the cleats - which may not be a bad thing.

Anyone know how the Giro SLX sizes compare to Shimano? I've got a pair of 44 TR-51s...

You might be a half a size smaller in the Giro SLX. I typically wore a 43 in Shimano and 42.5 in nearly everything else.

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Thanks!

What material is the warp sleeve made of? I could imagine it being like a swim cap, or is it cotton/lycra-like?
Can you expand it? So I can buy one blind (size down) and don't have to worry so much about sizing?


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I wear 48 in both the TR51's and the Giro, so I reckon they are pretty similar.

Thomas -- Have you tired or considered bontrager's lace up shoe? The top button might let you leave the tongue in?

http://www.trekbikes.com/...e-road-shoe/p/12551/

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/category/clothing/shoes/product/review-bontrager-classique-road-shoes-49593/

Where did you buy the specialized shoe cover? i'd like to get one!

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Hi Nick,

I believe it's a vinyl compound. It does stretch a little, but not quite as much as a latex swim cap. Stretching the upper half of the sleeve by maybe 2cm is the max I would think.

Hope this helps.

For sizing, I have a EU size 48 shoe and got size 49 sleeves. Maybe I could have gone for a size down, but it's a snug fit as it is.

I got them from Sigma Sports in the UK ...

http://www.sigmasport.co.uk/...arp-Shoe-Sleeve/DP9U

I would think that any authorized Specialized dealer can order them for you.

My local dealer called up specialized but no go. Not available to buy in US.

Not the Giro's, but on performance bike today you can get a pair of the LG Milan road lace ups for 47 ish dollars with the 20% off. I would feel much better about trying things on a shoe for that price. Not too bad looking either.