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February Fish twitch: Swim thread
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Post 'em.

maybe she's born with it, maybe it's chlorine
If you're injured and need some sympathy, PM me and I'm very happy to write back.
disclaimer: PhD not MD
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [Dr. Tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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Feb. 2: 7 mi run in an hour flat, 1300 m swim (1000 straight, 300 kick and doggie paddled and head up breaststroke), some girlie weights in the gym

maybe she's born with it, maybe it's chlorine
If you're injured and need some sympathy, PM me and I'm very happy to write back.
disclaimer: PhD not MD
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [Dr. Tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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700 warmup
3x800 aerobic on 10:15 (note: all faster than both Lionel and Sam Long's 1000yd time trial pace)
400 pull hard
4x50 easy

3700scy

hope to get an easy 30 min run in this afternoon.

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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [Dr. Tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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Got in yesterday for a short week, maybe only get in 3 swims. So going with longer rest and higher quality sets:

3x(4x100@1;40/200IM kick@4;20/200IM hard) swims-1;24/22/21/17/buoy-1;19's/pulls-1;11/11/10/09 IM's-2;46/2;46/2;44(fly our in 37/37/36) kicks(3;50/47/45)
3x200p@3;00(2;30/27/25) 100IM kick
4x50 buoy@;50(39/38/37/36)
3300SCY
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [Dr. Tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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I got in the pool today for the first time since before covid. Reservations and a 45 minute limits, but hey its open at least.

I was happy to get in a mile and go home, forgot how much I enjoy it. Time to start fighting for more reservation slots.
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [erbrown] [ In reply to ]
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Three swims so far this week:

Monday: 2800m endurance focus, with 6 x 25 fly in there
Tuesday: 2600m IM focus, with 8 x 100 IM
Wednesday: 2850m speed focus, with 10 x 75 free

Next PHO announcement is on Friday, fingers crossed masters swim club is allowed to start up again...
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [samtridad] [ In reply to ]
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Pool closed Monday due to 12 inch snowstorm but got in 3300 SCY today.

1200 (16:51), 6x50K on 1:15
10x100P on 1:30 (1:13-7), 4x50K on 1:15
6x50 stroke on 60 (40-46)
4x25 on 30 (17s) 100 easy

Felt yesterday’s snow shoveling in hamstrings, hips and trapezius, but didn’t really effect swimming.
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [PowerPlay] [ In reply to ]
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Got in my last day of the week, hopefully get in one on the weekend at the far pool. Continued theme, faster stuff on medium rest:

5x100s@1;40(1;26 to 1;20)
5x100IM kick@2;00(1;54 to 1;46)
Broken 400 IM, 100's@2;00 hard--5;22(fly-1;20/bk-1;24/brst-1;28-free1;10) 200IM kick@4;30(3;56)
5x200p@3;00 descend(2;29/28/27/25/20) 100IM kick(1;56)
6x50@;50/1;00/1;10, 2 buoys, 3rd and 6th fly(buoys-39's) flys-37's
200 easy pull(2;31)
3300SCY in 59 minutes

Thinking that my broken 400IM might be reflective of a tapered race swim, at least hope so..It was really hard with the rest, HR barley dropped before each new swim began..
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [monty] [ In reply to ]
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11 mi run
1000m swim straight
1.5 mi bike (errand)

maybe she's born with it, maybe it's chlorine
If you're injured and need some sympathy, PM me and I'm very happy to write back.
disclaimer: PhD not MD
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [Dr. Tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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Endurance swim this morning:

2500 continuous as:
400 free, 100 back, 300 free, 100 back, 200 free, 100 back, 100 free, 100 back, 200 free, 100 back, 300 free, 100 back, 400 free
400 BS to cool down and stretch out.
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [samtridad] [ In reply to ]
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I'm very disappointed now. After my failed qualification attempt last month the weather has become consistently warm again. Now the sea temperature here has already gone to 19°C, while the pandemic restrictions are still in place. Therefore I can't do any useful training at all.
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [miklcct] [ In reply to ]
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miklcct wrote:
I'm very disappointed now. After my failed qualification attempt last month the weather has become consistently warm again. Now the sea temperature here has already gone to 19°C, while the pandemic restrictions are still in place. Therefore I can't do any useful training at all.

What's wrong with 19 degrees? Sounds perfect to me - our lake is frozen over...
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [samtridad] [ In reply to ]
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Endurance swim again this morning, nearly made it to 3000m but got booted out of the lane at 2950...

Continuous swim, rotating: 200 free (build by 50s), 100 back (easy), 200 free (build by 25s), 100 BS

Five swims this week, I'm just making the most of the opportunity that the pandemic has opened up: you never used to be able to book lanes and some mornings were reserved for kids' swim clubs. Mine must be the only town where I have more access to swim lanes now that covid has shut things down...
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Pretty sure you will be closer to 5:10 in that IM race. Our workout splits are pretty similar and I went a 5:12 unrested right before covid hit. Might be a good match race if we ever get a meet.
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [Abergili] [ In reply to ]
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I think you have the edge on me for endurance at the moment, your set of 100 IM's on the 1;45 would be really tough for me. I would like to think I could go that fast, and by past times, it would put me right around the top spot at nationals in my new AG. But what I have found in the 10 years from where you are and me right now, those easy sub 1;10 100 flys going out in the 400IM are long gone. Something about fly and old age, it really creeps up on you. Suppose that is why they only give out half the podium spots in the 200 fly once you get medicare.. (-; I will be hoping for maybe a 1;15+ that doesn't devastate my other strokes..

But like you, I really hope we can get some kind of meet going in the near future. Seems like if all of us are swimming safely, that a meet where there is absolutely only one per lane ought to be manageable. Last time they had a masters nationals they guy that won the 400IM went 5;22 or there about, so at least I'm knocking on that door. But funny thing is that every time I age up, seems like a majority of the fast guys that beat me before do too. 60-64 was the largest AG in the 3k postal I swam a couple months ago, dudes just are not dying off yet!!!
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [monty] [ In reply to ]
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monty wrote:
...dudes just are not dying off yet!!!
We'll see. My back is giving me fits again. It doesn't affect my swimming much, but I've given up on running. That means I've ramped up the bike, Zwifting quite a bit. But all that will be lost in couple of months as I'm going to get my back worked on again. This time, L3-L5 Laminectomies, Fusion and Pedicle Screws. I'll be out for a few months, at least. So, competitions this summer look doubtful for me. But, for now, I'm rocking good speed both swimming and cycling just to be strong and healthy going under the knife.
BTW: Balboa-Newport Pier-to-Pier, if it happens at all, will be a National Championship OW race. Keep an eye on it.

Proud member of FISHTWITCH: doing a bit more than fish exercise now.
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [HalfSpeed] [ In reply to ]
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3300 SCY only one in an 8 lane pool at 8PM

1200 continuous IM; 100 each stroke: 18:25
6x50K on 1:15
5x200P on 3:00 (2:31-4)
4x50K on 1:15
10x50 on 50 (36-9), 100 easy/drill
Kind of rested as an unplanned day off yesterday due to work emergency and snow storm monday, so missed 2 days bike/run but got 3 swims and will get 1 more this weekend.

I second Monty’s comment on fly, mine has really faded in last 2 years, and I’m not yet motivated to work at it.
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [samtridad] [ In reply to ]
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samtridad wrote:
miklcct wrote:
I'm very disappointed now. After my failed qualification attempt last month the weather has become consistently warm again. Now the sea temperature here has already gone to 19°C, while the pandemic restrictions are still in place. Therefore I can't do any useful training at all.


What's wrong with 19 degrees? Sounds perfect to me - our lake is frozen over...


I need 16°C to do the English Channel qualification. No amount of swimming in 18-19°C will help to build acclimation for 15-16°C.
Last edited by: miklcct: Feb 5, 21 20:16
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [Dr. Tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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Sprained my ankle in a trail half marathon a couple weeks back, so I’ve been swimming a bit more.

3300 yards this afternoon and 2500 yards Wednesday afternoon. Working a lot with a pull buoy to keep my ankle in check.

Caught a horrible calf cramp Wednesday getting out of the pool, think it’s because I was only pushing off with my left foot since it’s my right ankle that’s sprained. Calf is still sore today.
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [Dr. Tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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waiting for what our local govt announces next week. Our lockdown goes till 11 Feb. It effectively started on 24 Dec. Cases first went up basically from Dec 20 to Jan 7th, then all numbers have been dropping like a stone to the bottom of the pool. Our pools are still shut but now the numbers are back to early Nov numbers which was 6 weeks before lockdown. So I suspect that there is a lot of pressure to go back to some semblance of activity like we had in Dec (which included pools), but there is no certainty that the latest data will be used to decide anything. So maybe we get to swim in 7-10 days maybe not. It may also take some time to prepare pools even if given the go ahead. Last time they got the go ahead it literally took 5 weeks to reopen them. That was insanely frustrating, but in fairness they had to put in new systems of covid19 safe reopening. Now we have those systems so hopefully it is 1 week max.

Keep posting your workouts, it is enjoyable reading what others ARE allowed to do. In the mean time, I am running and XC skiing every day and rowing and weights 5x per week and doing 100-300 pushups daily (the latter "just because no one can lock me down from doing those")
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [Dr. Tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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Did a long session, almost continuous for an hour earlier this week...

...on my vasa :(

Strava
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [Abergili] [ In reply to ]
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So with your IM set on the 1;45 in mind, I did this set on Saturday at the low/far pool:

500s@7;15(7;03) 200IM kick@4;00(3;54) 3x100buoy@1;30(1;22/19/17)
12x100@1;45-2xIM/1x pull. IM's- 1;24/22/23/22/23/21/22/21. pulls-1;13/13/12/09
200IM kick(3;50)
6x100p@1;30(1;13 to 1;11) 4x50 buoy
3200SCY

So after that IM set, perhaps I could do a more sustained IM 100 group at a low 1;20 pace @1;45. But I did need to rest my legs every 3rd pulling, even though I kept my HR up a bit with a good effort on them. But also got 10 more seconds rest, which means the world at that interval, so thanks for the motivation T.
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Monday morning endurance swim:

m/s: 300 free, 100 back, 100 BS, 200 free, 75 back, 75 BS, 100 free, 50 back, 50 BS, 50 free, 25 back, 25 BS,100 free, 75 back, 75 BS, 200 free, 100 back, 100 BS, 300 free
c/d: 200 BS, 200 back

Spent yesterday skiing powder and moguls with one of my teenage kids, so stretching out in the water this morning felt awesome.
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [monty] [ In reply to ]
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I did 2 x200Im @ 3:30 249, 246
4 x100IM @ 1:45 descended to 1:20, pretty similar to your splits.

Saturday I did 8 x75 fl/bk/br by 25 on 1:30 was holding 1:02ish and the last one I got a 59. was getting a lot of rest on those so I kept up with the quality

Gonna cut back to 1 weekday and 2 weekend swims due to work for the next 2 months. Goal will be 3 a week.
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Re: February Fish twitch: Swim thread [Abergili] [ In reply to ]
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I think 3 days a week if done right can still net some faster times. I got in 3 last week and just upped the intensity to cover for lost yardages. Did a pretty good sprint breast set today, actually had a guy in lane next to me to push the pace for a few:

5x200s@3;10(2;50/46/43/39/37) 200IM kick(3;53)
3x200p hard@3;00(2;21/2;19/2;18 new WO PR)200IM kick(3;45)
12x50@1;00, 2 buoy/1 breast- Buoys(39 to 37's) Breast(42/41/40/39) 100kick(1;55) 50 breast all out(38)new workout PR
200IM kick(2;50)
2950SCY in 55 minutes

Gonna start to use some of your IM sets too, a virtual lane mate for swims most old guys dont like to swim..
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