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Doing a cycling/tri roadtrip in CA and Oregon, give me route feedback!
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Jonas
Nov 13, 19 14:37
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During my pro triathlon days I always enjoyed training in California and especially up at Dan´s and Marks place, Slowtwitch HQ! I always wanted to a longer type training camp, preferably going from point A to B moving forward.

I´m coaching up n´coming Swedish pro Alexander Berggren who some might remember seeing on the IM Florida course last weekend, leading the swim and 15-20 miles of the bike. He´s only a first-year pro and two years in triathlon so he´s super enthusiastic about any and all training camp ideas. This camp is something we´ve talked about over the past few months and now we´re deep into planning. Initially we toyed with the idea of going coast to coast (inspired by the trip Gordo Byrn and Clas Björling did in 2004...) but we figured it´s a tad to long to be gone from home and also not the most fun when it comes to scenery and such. Riding up through CA and Oregon though will provide plenty of nice scenery, climbing and adventures as well as great trail running!
The reason we end in Portland is that there´s where my brother lives so it´s a good place to end this camp.

We´ll have a support car and a U-Haul for luggage and stuff and will stay in hotels at each location. Alex dad has promised to drive:) We´ll probably have a few other Swedish triathletes join us and help us split the costs for logistics.

This is the route I´ve plotted. I´ve done my best to avoid gravel roads but also to stay away from large urban areas with to much traffic. We´ve chosen to have a bike free day every four or so days so we can get some nice running and swimming in as well. My experience from having done a bunch of longer bike tours like this is that too many long days in a row turn great training into survival mode training and misery.

Feel free to comment on the route and our stage destinations! Tips on swimming and running is also appreciated!

Thanks
Jonas

PRE-CAMP

April 2nd is travel day to San Diego
April 3rd is settling in, organizing support car and U-haul.
April 4th is Oceanside 70.3, half-IM, which we plan to participate in

CAMP

April 5th is San Diego-Temecula
173 km and 1900 metres of climbing
https://goo.gl/maps/1U74KHNBoyqpNgMH7

April 6th is Temecula-Big Bear Lake
169 km and 2800 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/J9Q3oXrZyGdrnV2Z8

April 7th is BBL-Valyermo (Slowtwitch HQ)
124 km and 1950 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/d7xfJjL1ZoELhVRx6

April 8th is run day at Jackson Lake/Punchbowl. Swimming in Palmdale

April 9th is Valyermo-Kernville
206 km and 1600 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/WTq3V7afFqr2fr4C6

April 10th is Kernville-Three Rivers
157 km and 2500 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/vHdqJS2WvV2ESmZAA

April 11th is Three Rivers-Pines Resort (monster day:)
250 km and 3900 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/oj5eGinsYBtQiroVA

April 12th is run and swim day in Pines Resort

April 13th is Pines Resort-Yosemite Valley
82 km and 1400 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/TqQqnpJVL1h9GMKPA

April 14th is Yosemite Valley-Bridgeport
160 km and 3000 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/P9PGM8qywcTznmGg6

April 15th is Bridgeport-Kings Beach
202 km and 2700 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/aDE1Fi4Bp6Qup6JH8

“HALFWAY” OF CAMP AND TRAVEL OPTION AS WE´RE CLOSE TO TAHOE/RENO AIRPORT.

April 16th is run and swim day in Kings Beach

April 17th is Kings Beach-Westwood
198 km and 1850 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/T8WnHWNNdTNEfydQA

April 18th is Westwood-Mt Shasta
198 km and 1300 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/SrwZk3hbarmC6HZW9

April 19th is Mt Shasta-Klamath Falls
130 km and 730 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/v5D8XcjJ2j97EHx69

April 20th is run and swim day in Klamath Falls

April 21st is Klamath Falls-Union Creek
177 km and 1300 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/wEHEG1SXVvtLhxnDA

April 22nd is Union Creek-Bend
199 km and 1700 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/5keceY6JxnZAf2ux6

April 23rd is swim and run day in Bend

April 24th is Bend-Lyons
173 km and 800 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/eNqjk65w7yGqG7v1A

April 25th is Lyons-Pacific City
136 km or 183 km, two options of routes, 400 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/t39xu2bf7qGzhLbK9

April 26th is Pacific City-Astoria
146 km and 700 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/WqLBaopoxuVQU83Z8

April 27th is Astoria-Portland
182 km and 1200 moc
https://goo.gl/maps/dx7HmkmAUjgve5Pq7

CAMP ENDS!
Last edited by: Jonas: Nov 13, 19 14:47
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monty
Nov 13, 19 14:50
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I had a look earlier and it just dawned on me that if we have a winter like last year, some of those roads will be closed, or at the very least, full of ice and snow. The way the winter is starting out here, seems like another drought year, but mid April could still be bad at anything over 6500ft. Maybe take a look at any routes that high, and see about alternate ones, just in case...
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Jonas
Nov 13, 19 14:52
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yeah, good point, we´ll have to keep track of how your California winter plays out.
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monty
Nov 13, 19 14:52
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Forgot to add, really pumped to have you guys up here for a couple days, if Jackson lake is still snowed in, there is always the Punchbowl for a great single track run. And after the 100/100's, me and dan may even run with your group!! I will definitely be swimming with you, I will start training now for a bit two day bloc... (-;
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Carl Spackler
Nov 13, 19 15:16
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Unless it's an abysmal snow year the roads won't be open through Yosemite. Access through Eastern Gate (which drops to Lee Vining) typically opens around Memorial Day.
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el gato
Nov 13, 19 20:14
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Agreed. Nearly zero chance Tioga Pass is open in April. Here are the historical open dates:

https://www.monobasinresearch.org/data/tiogapass.php
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monty
Nov 14, 19 6:32
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Sounds like you can plan last minute changes, so yes, we will watch the winter here, but some of your route is probably not going to be accessible. I would look at after coming up here, going up and cutting over to maybe where the Wildflower triathlon is held, Lake San Antonio and Naciemento. There is a very old road that cuts over the mountain there, right to the coast to the south end of the Big Sur area. From there are some of the great rides up the coast, and/or you can head inland and ride up the middle through Oregon. But at least you won't have to worry about snow roads and closures.
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hadukla
Nov 14, 19 7:09
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Assuming you don't need route advice for the last day in Portland given your brother lives here, but if happens to be a chill ride being the end, I'd be happy to get some of the local tri scene out for a group ride.
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ironclm
Nov 14, 19 15:15
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Jonas wrote:
yeah, good point, we´ll have to keep track of how your California winter plays out.

You do remember that ride from San Diego to the top of the mountain and Dan had to come rescue you, yes? Or when you ran back from the Punchbowl...in the winter storm? :-)
clm
Nashville, TN
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Jonas
Nov 15, 19 3:45
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Yes, epic adventures:)
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Andy STi
Nov 15, 19 12:48
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Just a quick look at your Oregon route. You are on major highways almost the entire time. Unfortunately the main north-south roads are all 2 lane state highways. Many trucks, not the greatest road conditions, maybe an ok shoulder to ride in some places. Plan on lots of debris in the shoulders though. I wouldn't ride that route, just wouldn't be enjoyable.
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TriSpencer
Nov 15, 19 17:34
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Wow, impressive! Looking forward to how this works out for you.
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SLOgoing
Nov 16, 19 5:36
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Have you looked at the route the CA aids ride takes? It is mostly away from heavy traffic (I would modify it to avoid LA and SF).

Pros:
Coastal moderate temps - no snow
Better scenery for the time of year
Access to the ocean for ocean swims (there are OWS groups up and down the coast you could drop in with)
Ocean swims are awesome for toasted legs
Rain on the coast can generally be ridden in if you must
Like Monty said, Wildflower
The coastal communities have tons of lap pools

Cons:
Low elevation (for training)
You’d need to cut laterally to avoid the Bay Area or keep to HWY1 for that segment (which is congested)
No sweeping views of the snow covered sierras.
There are fewer big climb opportunities, though the coast is hardly flat
Hotels are generally more expensive

Good luck....
Hillary Trout
San Luis Obispo, CA

Your trip is short. Make the most of it.
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BarbBikeTechie
Nov 16, 19 7:41
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I probably ridden just about every road & back in Oregon in last 38 yrs. I've am only the only woman & 1/5 of us who have ridden all of the week long Cycle Oregon bicycle rides which try to avoid major highways and highlight great cycling roads. Your planned trip through Oregon will get you from point A - B but there are some better alternative roads for cycling that would be better. Like going through Butte Falls vs around via Shady Cove.
Highway 97 is the heaviest traveled in the state. All full of truck traffic going way to fast. It's unpleasant.
Last day from Astoria to PDX Highway 30 (known as dirty 30) is unpleasant compared to the alternative. Last time I did it starting the 1st day of an organized ride across country said never again. I've done a nicer alternative than 30 many times as long 1 day training ride. Much nicer to go south from Astoria then over to Jewel & Mist towards PDX. Depending on where you want to go into Portland area, one can get on the Banks Vernonia Trail or over to Scappose & then onto 30 into town.
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