devashish_paul wrote:
Jordan, a quick question on the beam-frame mate location and the "fail safe" mode. If at that joint the interface fails (not a carbon crack, but the friction holding the beam in place is insufficient to suspend the rider weight), when the beam "sinks" how low can it go? Is there a "bottom out" position that would not result in any calamity, or would it just sink right down to the rear tire.
In the aviation world we had the categories safety critical and mission critical. If your system failed but you just lost the mission that was less problematic than the system failing and the air crew crashing. In this case, is your issue a mission critical one where you can't finish the training ride or the race, or is it safety critical where a rider could get injured/hurt? This is unclear in this thread and I have not seen the design close enough to know the fail safe mode.
Dev
I think you are asking a question here for which we do not have enough information to answer. I will say, that in my opinion, anything that goes wrong with a bike in a critical situation can be catastrophically dangerous, including having your seat suddenly drop a few inches (much less have a beam that is not solidly attached) (note: I am not saying that the Dimond is susceptible to either of these). You, probably more than most of the rest of us, know this, but when I think of the saves I have had to make (especially at high speed (which means for me going down hill)) (e.g., having to dodge an obstacle) where the margin of error starts to get really small, if one more thing went wrong I would have been much less likely to get myself safely through it.
As to Jordan, I am slow to criticize him for his ongoing endorsements prior to the break-up. Trust is at bottom more of an emotion than a rational thought process. So, Jordan trusted TJ and his product based on a number of things (personal relationship, expectation of TJs good faith, etc.). He bought in. But then he hit a breaking point (maybe something that Jordan thought was a clear safety issue wasn't being addressed) and the trust was broken. At that point it is human nature to look back and think "how could I ever have let myself trust this bike?" I read Jordan to be saying he questions his endorsement. So I do not necessarily think he is being dishonest or a hypocrite. We just do not know enough at this time. I do not know Jordan, but I very much like the persona he projects on ST. I hope that is actually who he is and if so I hope he can get through all this without too much damage.