This was suggested after last years event also but unfortunately they didn't adopt it. I think it's the most sensible solution to even out the teams a bit more. It obviously would not help team USA but it needs to have it's own team for many reasons, and in the strong years they are more than capable of fielding a very powerful team. I feel you have to break up Europe somehow because it currently has a sizeable advantage when it comes to athletes to choose from which makes sense given it's double the USA in terms of population, and even more so vs The Internationals since most of the athletes are from the traditional triathlon countries, i.e. Australia, NZ, SA, Canada, all of which have small populations in comparison. This year of course they also had a Brazilian (Lopes) and Duffy from Bermuda.This year's Euro team didn't have a large GB representation, but it potentially could, i.e. LCB, a healthy A. Brownlee, and hopefully soon Alex Yee, so by making a Commonwealth team it simultaneously makes the Internationals stronger while (potentially) making Europe less strong, although Stadler says they could field 2 teams that could win 😆

I think a mass start but still having 1 v 1 v1 could work. It would be exciting seeing teams work together and trying to help their teammates do well. Draft legal might be the better option and allow them to work together like in pro cycling or sub 7/8

A 3 hour broadcast is fine but today’s format (12 races going off every 10 minutes) leads to a 5 hour broadcast. Triathlon is not compelling enough to attract more than the most ardent triathlon FSM.

That's too complicated imo. If your solution is a mass start, then make it as simple as possible and just xc score it. But doing a mass start + 1 v 1 v 1 scoring imo makes no logical sense to the viewer. That's over complicating it for the sake of trying to feature matchups in the fastest race possible.

So if your telling me the only way this works is to going to mass start racing, I would guess that the PTO is going to pull the plug (and money). And again if they go to mass start, what's the appeal? It's been done a hundred times before and it never catches on. And the current format may not be the answer, I just don't see the PTO adapting mass start solution it for this particular event.

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Exercise Physiology
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just saw highlights and what not of this race. rather see an ITU race since this is too long. but PTO is capitalizing with free broadcast and quality highlights/ pre match videos

Top 12 male and females. Rankings 1-3 become team captains. Rank 1 gets first pick of rank 10-12. Rank 2 second pick and so on. 3 teams of 4 from rankings and a specials ‘Charles team’ of PTO picks for 4th team. 2 day event. Final event is teams TTT and first 3 across the line time counts. Day 1 - match-ups if they want to stick with that. Prize money - put 20% of appearance fee as winning team takes all.

Time to look up the Ryder Cup and the results. Google is your friend.

Thanks PTO for emailing me and spoiling the result in your email title, anyone signing up to your emails wouldn't be sat round waiting for your email to know the results would they?

Coverage was terrible!!! No splits just a point system I couldn't care less about, close to zero coverage of any of the men's races unless your name is Long, Sanders, Laidlow or Royle.

They need to split this into two days, as there's obviously far too many races to cover.

Glad I'm not the only one who picked up on this, their fan club on here would have lost their shit if it was anyone else.

Duffy and Wilde have both been peaking for a sprint distance triathlon a couple of weeks ago, it was always going to be a big ask for them to jump distances.

She was always capable of pulling off a performance like that it this distance.

Now that is actually some funny banter!

The Collins cup website says she went 3:23:57. Should it have been 3:33?

I like your idea. that could be interesting and having teammates work together, kinda like what LS and SL did

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Interesting. I was using the PTO tracker app to look at the times. It looks like they mistakenly used her split at 15.7km instead of the full 18km of the run. I just checked the collins cup website and multiple times are different from the tracker. Jewett, Spirig, Royle all have wrong times on the website. Hopefully they get that sorted.

Ryf: 3:28:50
Gentle: 3:30:51
Findlay: 3:31:10
Spirig: 3:32:44

I would have liked more teams.

1) USA
2) UK
3) Scandinavia
4) (The rest of) Europe
5) Team Int

Team USA and Team International would remain the same whereas you would split the talent of Europe in 3, making it a lot more interesting.

Lawrence 3:33:09
Haug 3:33:53
(NB Blummenfelt @ 3:09:18 so Ryf took only 10% longer.)
What I also noticed (in a data quirky way) was that the female matches 1 - 6 were won in ascending times. With only Philipp interpolating herself, seconds ahead of Haug.

Great to see Spirig win: the weak match up she was fixed was in the event an unnecessary PTO insurance. Findlay aced the bike. Excellent all-round from Gentle who (I estimate will jump to #4 in the PTO rankings).

Pointers for Kona? Ryf must be super pleased: excellent swim and bike. Haug and Philipp set up for a close race in Hawaii. Matthews atypically way off pace bike and run after a good (for her) swim. Moench likewise.
https://stats.protriathletes.org/...onships/2022/results

The “elite” race taking place now, Lucy Charles leading and Emma PB in 3rd. Looks like it’ll be a run off between them two. D Vries in 2nd dropping like a stone on the run.

Lucy going to win comfortably, wonder if this means she’ll race 70.3 worlds. Putting time into Emma on the run too.

Impressive. Running 65 for 18km so about 1:18 pace for a half. She has a start slot for Kona from her St George 70.3WC win.

Was thinking Kona might be too soon in her recovery. Maybe the 70.3 is more feasible. No idea where are is in her recovery of course so could be talking utter nonsense here

She just said on La Chaine du Triathlon a French Tri news that she will be discussing what is next with her team tonight but Kona is a possibility. She said she was surprised about how good she felt as well.

Le Corre takes the win..
seems he was drafting all the time and no official warned him. Last week he was in the euro champs in the front pack not giving a single relay... I guess he does not care...just the opposite behavior of other french like Luis or Bergere...

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If she is racing Kona, great, but seems she was just planning 70.3 worlds and then tryting to qualify for Paris? That would mean no Kona till 2025? it is a big call to qualify for the olympics within team GB: one spot will be for GTB. The other one or two for Coldwell, Potter, Rainsley or Waugh or plus Learmonth and Stanford... Will she dare? I think she could get the spot in case there are 3, but she should work in her bike skills and anaerobic efforts.

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MadTownTRI wrote:

The head-to-head hasn’t exactly produced compelling racing. I like your version, and score it like a cross country meet.

Down for more teams/different team/different scoring but I think the H2H is compelling since this is the one race where you have it & really spend time hyping up the individual athletes.

Maybe do pods of 6 instead of 3 & then score by match. Might have tighter races. Maybe some team tactics. I think the bonus points should be taken out of the equation. There's definitely a way to create more drama & have a closer scoring system.

XC Scoring:
Europe: 1, 2, 5, 6, 16, 18 = 48
US: 4, 8. 10, 11, 13, 14 = 60
International: 3, 7, 9, 12, 15, 17 = 63

Good to see LCB back. Don't know how the weather was today versus yesterday. She went 3:34 & took down a strong field. 3:34 would be in the middle of yesterday's race but there would have been more (legal) drafting in the mass start race.

Solid times for the men. Le Corre went 3:11. That would've been 2nd behind KB but, as mentioned, hard to say how much time to subtract for pack swimming/biking. Pretty evident Sam/Lionel got a big (but legal) boost yesterday.