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Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures
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So winter kicked in really, really early this year here in Ontario (as in early November) and already Zwift is making me want to kill myself. Usually, between the slop and the sleet you can pick a couple of days in winter where it's sunny, the road is relatively dry, and it's not too cold - say around -4 to -5*C (24*F). I want to take advantage of those days.

I have clothing to ride in (full length bibs and tights, baselayer, two or three of long sleeve jerseys, jacket, beanie), but the problem is my hands. I have Raynaud's, which sucks on the run, but then it will usually be gone after a couple of km. On the bike it just doesn't go away. I have been using something similar to this: https://www.mec.ca/...per-Insulated-Gloves and they're fine up to just above freezing. I've used them below freezing with heat packs, and that sort of works, in a masochistic kind of way, but it's not good enough. On the run when it's really cold I use snowboarding mitts, and I'd love to wear those on the bike, but, yeah, shifting and braking...

What do you guys recommend for gloves that are warm but still allow you to shift and most important of all brake?

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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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I use full on ski gloves. They work for me down into the 20F range. I know some people use lobster gloves with success, too.

EtA: the ones I have also have a built in pouch for a handwarmer thingy on the back of the hand. Works great... Doesn't get in the way.
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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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It is one of the primary reasons I moved south to be honest and this come from running in Minneapolis on some -20F days. Anyway, somebody was looking for some swim gloves in an earlier thread just now and it got me to thinking of DIY hacks. Would a pair of neoprene gloves work better than regular gloves for Raynaud's suffers??? These come in 3mm and 5mm, and have some texture which could allow decent dexterity. The BlueSeventy Thermal gloves are probably thinner than 3mm if you wanted something even thinner. No idea, just spitballing here but if I ever ride somewhere cold again I might consider it myself.


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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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I've used Castelli Estremo gloves for the last two years and have been very happy. Warm and completely windproof for my rides between 20-50'F. I suspect they could do colder, but I'd rather be on the trainer at that point. Really nice grip surface on the inside and fingers. Shifting/braking is fine. Not cheap (~$90) so don't lose them.

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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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Lobsters!

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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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Have a look at bar mitts. It's essentially large neoprene sleeves that you mount on the handlebars. There are versions for both road and mountain bikes. Fewer seams than a pair of gloves and noo need for dexterity means that they can be both thick and waterproof. I use a pair of these for my commute during winter - I just have a thin pair of running gloves under and I'm good for 45 min at - 10.

http://barmitts.com
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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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I have recently ordered these https://www.gripgrab.com/...es/products/windster and although temperatures here have only been between -1 and +3 degrees Celcius at their lowest when I was cycling, they were still plenty warm at that point and allow a lot of movement to manipulate your brakes and shifters and so on.

If those are not sufficiently insulating, maybe these are:
https://www.gripgrab.com/collections/fall-winter-gloves/products/optimus
https://www.gripgrab.com/collections/fall-winter-gloves/products/nordic
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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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ski gloves all winter long:

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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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Lobsters og mitts. The ability for the fingers to warm each other makes them much warmer than any glove with separate fingers, no matter how much insulation they have. I've found that at some point more insulation doesn't really help the separate finger gloves - it might even work against the purpose as your fingers will be separated more and might even get a slight pressure on them shutting the blood flow down, which will make them even colder.

I have a sponsor deal with GripGrab and have asked them to send me some of their lobster gloves for this winter (FWIW I also suggested they started making them in the hi-viz yellow colour as I really like added visibility):
https://www.gripgrab.com/...oves/products/nordic

I've only tried mitts before, but hopefully the lobsters will be almost as warm, but a little better with regards to shifting and braking. With mittens I have no problem with my hands keeping warm riding in -5*C and my hands are usually on the cold side - those separate finger gloves gets too cold at around 3*C for me.

Also, be sure the gloves aren't too small and put pressure on your hand as that will close off the blood flow and make them colder.
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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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An important factor not often mentioned is keeping your arms warm.

In cold weather you're relying on warm blood making it down your arms to your hands, so if it's losing all of heat on its way down there through poorly insulated arms, then your hands will likely stay cold irrespective of what gloves you're wearing.

Try some arm warmers under whatever winter clothing you're wearing. It won't be a magic solution on its own, but all the small things help in cold weather!
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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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I've always suffered with cold at the extremities and the only thing that works for my hands is to wear Neoprene gloves. There are some fancy pants expensive ones out there I bet, but the Endura FS260 are reasonable and work well for me. I sometimes line them with an additional layer, eg some running gloves.

If you want to save even more money, Kayak gloves are much cheaper and almost exactly the same thing.
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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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I also have Raynauds so I feel for you.

This is going to sound very counterintuitive but give it a try. It’s cheap. Get some thin latex type gloves and put them on under your standard gloves and hand warmer packs. This will trap all the moisture from your hands getting out. I know people say you don’t want your hands to sweat inside your gloves as that makes your hands colder. For me I’ve found that is next to impossible to prevent so I go the other way and just trap it next to my skin and prevent the wind and cold from getting to it. At the end of the ride your hands will be sweating like a pig inside the latex but they will be considerably warmer. Easiest way to experiment with this is put a latex glove on one hand but not the other and go for a ride.

Raynauds sucks. I’ve had my hands go completely numb and white and the temperature was 50F.

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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [7401southwick] [ In reply to ]
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They need to make nitrile socks!

Hands are no problem for me - ski gloves, with knit liner added when it gets into the twenties (which I usually end up removing mid-ride), but I have not been able to figure out how to keep my toes from freezing past the 30-minute mark when it's colder than around 40F. My current set up includes wool sock + plastic bag + shoe + neoprene shoe cover. 30-minutes in, toes are going numb.
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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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Last year I rode in swix lobster claws, they were ok, but got sweaty quickly than wet & cold. This year I purchased some pogies. Pogies are by far the way to go.

I purchased some moose mitts, in 20-30 degree weather, just wear light full finger gloves. As you get colder, might want to wear something thicker. Thinking back on it, I should of coughed up the extra 20 bucks and got the 45NRTH Cobrafists, my friend has a pair and they look much warmer.

Not sure which bike your riding, but moose mitts does make drop bar mitts.
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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
It is one of the primary reasons I moved south to be honest and this come from running in Minneapolis on some -20F days. Anyway, somebody was looking for some swim gloves in an earlier thread just now and it got me to thinking of DIY hacks. Would a pair of neoprene gloves work better than regular gloves for Raynaud's suffers??? These come in 3mm and 5mm, and have some texture which could allow decent dexterity. The BlueSeventy Thermal gloves are probably thinner than 3mm if you wanted something even thinner. No idea, just spitballing here but if I ever ride somewhere cold again I might consider it myself.

My riding buddy has the Castelli Diluvio neoprene gloves (3mm?) and while they do keep his hands warm, they get absolutely soaked on rides, even when it's freezing or below - his skin gets pruned like he was surfing or swimming in them. He's switched back to a more "traditional" winter glove, can't remember which one.

I use Pearl Izumi PRO Amfib gloves (not the lobster kind) and they work well in the same temp range.
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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [WelshinPhilly] [ In reply to ]
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I am surprised how well my 45 North gloves do in the 25-35 degree range. Much colder than than that and you won't find me out there.
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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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Cross country ski instead ;)

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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [boobooaboo] [ In reply to ]
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boobooaboo wrote:
Cross country ski instead ;)

Not enough snow here. We've had one half-foot dump which was washed away by two days of rain we've had since.

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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [mlbTri] [ In reply to ]
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mlbTri wrote:
I've used Castelli Estremo gloves for the last two years and have been very happy. Warm and completely windproof for my rides between 20-50'F. I suspect they could do colder, but I'd rather be on the trainer at that point. Really nice grip surface on the inside and fingers. Shifting/braking is fine. Not cheap (~$90) so don't lose them.

lol amazon.ca has them for over CAN$300. Will look into them but I'm not buying them from amazon...

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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [MTM] [ In reply to ]
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MTM wrote:
I have a sponsor deal with GripGrab and have asked them to send me some of their lobster gloves for this winter (FWIW I also suggested they started making them in the hi-viz yellow colour as I really like added visibility):
https://www.gripgrab.com/...oves/products/nordic

Those look promising. Thanks

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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [7401southwick] [ In reply to ]
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7401southwick wrote:
I also have Raynauds so I feel for you.

This is going to sound very counterintuitive but give it a try. It’s cheap. Get some thin latex type gloves and put them on under your standard gloves and hand warmer packs. This will trap all the moisture from your hands getting out. I know people say you don’t want your hands to sweat inside your gloves as that makes your hands colder. For me I’ve found that is next to impossible to prevent so I go the other way and just trap it next to my skin and prevent the wind and cold from getting to it. At the end of the ride your hands will be sweating like a pig inside the latex but they will be considerably warmer. Easiest way to experiment with this is put a latex glove on one hand but not the other and go for a ride.

Raynauds sucks. I’ve had my hands go completely numb and white and the temperature was 50F.

https://www.uline.com/...BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

I don't mind sweaty. Those snowboarding mitts I mentioned are positively gross at the end of a 20km run. Don't care. So I definitely am going to try your latex glove idea. I happen to already have a box handy...

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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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An old boss of mine was an avid ice fisherman. He had picked up a trick from some old timer that he said makes it so that he can use thin gloves most days on the ice, no matter the temp: duct tape a handwarmer to the underside of your wrist - your blood vessels are closer to the surface there and the handwarmer warms the blood going into your hands keeping them warmer.

I have never tried it (my hands sweat too much as it is), but it may be worth trying in conjunction with some other tips people have here.

Good luck!
- Jeff
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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [jkstevens] [ In reply to ]
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jkstevens wrote:
An old boss of mine was an avid ice fisherman. He had picked up a trick from some old timer that he said makes it so that he can use thin gloves most days on the ice, no matter the temp: duct tape a handwarmer to the underside of your wrist - your blood vessels are closer to the surface there and the handwarmer warms the blood going into your hands keeping them warmer.

I have never tried it (my hands sweat too much as it is), but it may be worth trying in conjunction with some other tips people have here.

Good luck!
- Jeff

Thanks for the tip.

But I don't think it'll work for me. Raynaud's is not an issue of 'cold' blood (I'm not sure if that's even a thing, but I'm not a doctor). Raynaud's is a nervous system disorder - the sympathetic nervous system restricts the blood flow to the fingers. So there is no blood to warm up.

I'm going to try it anyway. Maybe my nervous system gets tricked by the warmth. Who knows.

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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [minimalist] [ In reply to ]
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minimalist wrote:
Have a look at bar mitts. It's essentially large neoprene sleeves that you mount on the handlebars. There are versions for both road and mountain bikes. Fewer seams than a pair of gloves and noo need for dexterity means that they can be both thick and waterproof. I use a pair of these for my commute during winter - I just have a thin pair of running gloves under and I'm good for 45 min at - 10.

http://barmitts.com

Bar Mitts are the answer. They make an unbelievable difference. My hands are always cold, and I can just use silk liners & light gloves with my Bar Mitts well below freezing. The only "problem" is that they limit your hand positions. You'll basically be relegated to your hoods (assuming you're riding drop bars), since that's the only position where you'll have their protection.


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Re: Bike gloves for below freezing temperatures [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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Bar mitts/pogies are nearly impossible to beat. Having ridden lots of cold weather.
Shy that I’d be looking at a pair of swix split mittens

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