Can you imagine the scandals if it turned out that pro athletes doped. Pro cyclists doping? Who's next baseball players?

and cue LeMond in 5.....4......3

Pro ball players would never dope. I mean, come on, they can get suspended for 10 days!

what is a suspect syringes? is it the way the syringes look at you that make it suspect? I dont get it. Perhpas there should not be any article on this until the analyses are back because if you ask my very big medical expertise, i think all syringes are equally suspect when i look at them in a container!!!!

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They were talking syringes. One of them contained poutine. They're looking for a canuck.

Information Equips It: The Public Prosecutions of Paris opened, at the end of the last Tour de France, by the intervention of the vice-prosecutor Dominique Pérard, a preliminary inquiry concerning the Astana team, that of Lance Armstrong and Alberto Contador. The opening of this inquiry, which was entrusted to OCLAESP (central Service of conflict against attacks in environment and in public health) followed the discovery of several suspicious syringes in one of the containers entrusted by the organization of test to all teams to harvest the waste of medical origin. These syringes, used by the team of Alberto Contador, the victor of the race, were entrusted to the Parisian laboratory of judicial expertises Toxlab du Professeur Gilbert Pépin and makes the object of analyses nowadays to determine contents. - DAMIEN RESSIOT


The hunt continues.

I was watching some NFL highlights last night. At one point in the discussion the commentator said something along the lines of 'This guy is back after a four game suspension for performance enhancing drugs. The team is really excited to have him back. They can really use him on the line.' The segment didn't even include a suggestion of wrong doing.

Here's what I don't get. Even if Astana was doping, do we actually think they would be stupid enough to dispose of the syringes into medical waste containers given to them by ASO, which the team knew would be returned to ASO?

Just doesn't make any sense. I'm not saying one way or the other whether AC or LA (or any other Astana rider) doped, but you have to wonder if this would happen if a French rider or a rider from a French team had won.

Always the same argument 'it's something against the good americans'... ;-)
Festina? French team...did it happen to them? You bet. Laurent Roux, same thing, and countless other cyclists...Now if you asked if Zidane was ever in trouble when someone said on tv that he was going to a clinic in Switzerland to 'oxygenate' his blood, then of course, the answer is no ;-)

Ok fair enough, but festina was a little different story. I don't think it's "poor Americans" as AC is not an American rider. I just think this is a little bit of a stretch is all. If ASO wants to test the syringes, that's fine. And if they catch someone doping, great it needs to be done. But I also don't think it's fair to any of the Astana riders that they immediately went to the media to report this before they even know anything. My guess is that nothing comes od this, because of my original point. There's is no way they would have been stupid enough to dispose of syringes used for doping into medical waste containers they knew would be returned to ASO.

I would also think that if someone was doping that they would rinse those syringes with bleach or something. I'm not paid millions of dollars and I could figure that out.

jaretj

I noticed that one too. It seems to be a consistent theme in the NFL. I can't decide if it's better or worse than in baseball, where they just give the whole issue the silent treatment.

Oh trust me, I know how fucked up the whole thing is...ASO owns the Tour and l'Equipe! And the media reports are a joke...that said, without the media there would have been no Festina affair, no Ben Johnson affair, no Believe Tyler, etc...looks like many people are more than happy to just cover things up.

They mentioned it was just a bad supplement, though, so it's all good. Either an honest mistake or those pesky supplement manufacturers not cleaning out their nandrolone vats before starting up a batch of Vitamin C.

we all have a bit of a duality of desire when it comes to sports and doping.

we want 350lbs freaks on the o-line
we want to see people crush it up mount ventoux 3 weeks into the tour

but we don't want them to use certain chemicals to do it

well...something about cake and eating it

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Between that story and Astana not letting Johan go, they are really making a name for themselves....

Jack-on, there indeed is some shizo attitude towards doping in our society.
Double standard, always caused by lack of guidance (morals, ethics.... you name it).

And as seen in this post the next step is to claim it was "Them" and not "US".

Further down the road it is gonna be:

Hang him, hang him high!
But make sure to use silly-string!

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Forget about testing the contents of the syringes, how about comparing the DNA sample from Lance's hair with the needles? If they match, that would be curious. Though maybe he was just receiving lidocaine and b-12 injections like Roger Clemens. Lidocaine injections in the butt are very common when needing to remove an ass tooth.

I would say that what we have is a dichotomy of desires.

I had a bad feeling when I read this headline yesterday:

Cycling moving away from scandals, says Tour boss

to this article: http://sports.yahoo.com/...euters&type=lgns

You just don't say some things about cycling like:

I've never gotten a flat with these tires.
I can't remember the last time I got in crash.
and
the Tour is clean this year.

They always come back to bite you.

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I want to see people suffering up Ventoux. Personally, I'd rather it was done more slowly - it'd make it last longer!

Also, we'd see climbing specialists winning mountain stages and TTers winning TTs instead of dopers winning it all thus it'd be far more strategic.