tri@thlete wrote:
I rotate between both the Next and Alpha for all types of road running sessions. I've used every version of the Nike Carbon plated shoes and tried Saucony Pro Endorphin, New Balance's T Cell, and Adidas Carbon (though didn't run in these).
Nike just has a 3-4 year lead on all Carbon plated shoes. I think it's more than the plate, it's the foam. I was really hoping Saucony Pro would've worked better, but it's so stiff and "bottom" heavy. I've heard the Speed is much better overall with a more responsiveness. New Balance and Adidas (what I've heard) are just behind. Hopefully this all changes over the next few years, but Nike seems to have a big lead.
Initially I thought the Next was better given the weight and slightly tighter fit, but over time, the Alpha has blossomed. The foam just makes going fast so easy and your don't feel beat up at all. I'd say Next might be "faster" over a shorter course up to a half marathon. As with others, the Next seems to have a more secure feeling especially if you have more turns. If the course is relatively straight forward and over a marathon, I might choose an Alphafly.
The endorphin pro and speed are two different animals. The pro has more "pop" than the speed and the Vaporfly. The Vaporfly has more "bounce" The speed has neither of these. Its a trainer and its squishy with a soft nylon plate that is a tad springy but nothing like the pro or vaporfly. The speed is an outstanding trainer but for a race you're giving up some energy return......however the speed is not built to "pop". It's built to be a every day trainer that's light and soft. This is does very well.
The noticeable differences in the Pro and Vaporfly are:
1. Pro "rolls and pops" where the Vaprofly "bounces".
2. The Vaporfly is more squishy than the Pro.
3. The Pro is more stable and doesn't penalize you if you heal strike. The Vaporfly is less stable and demands more of a forefoot strike.
4. The Vaporfly is a tad lighter.
5. The Pro is much more durable.
Both are really good shoes and if one doesn't work for you most likely the other will. I have ruled out the AF because of the weight and price.