Yep, WTC should demand the ride files from all the top 15 from most AGs and then load them into Strava for a flyover review....will be super easy to see who drafted for LARGE portions of the bike course.

One can dream

Stupidest comment on the internet about drafting. Blaming pros for misbehaving age groupers.

Watched the video feed and in that location with the width of the road no reason to choose to draft. You can always let the train go and ride up the road. Glad to see so many who actually chose to ride an honourable race.

I'm not defending the drafters, but I would say there is a large group of athletes riding legal too.

As for blaming WTC on the marshalling front, well it is never acceptable when there are no marshalls but when did we all lose accountability for ourselves. Just cause someone is drafting in a pack and stealing your Kona slot, it does not make it acceptable to join the train and get on a level playing field of Kona slot stealing. This is exactly why everyone in the pro peloton had to be on EPO in the 90's and 2000's. For them, you either got on EPO and kept your pro contract, or you went back to being a bricklayer in Khazakstan or a factory worker in the US or wherever. I'm not saying that makes it OK, but really at the age group level, WTF are people stealing artificial times for? I thought the entire point of age group sport was to challenge ourselves.

Dev

Certainly doesn't say much about the intelligence or ethics of triathletes when participants spend $10K plus for a tri bike and aero equipment than spend much of the race riding in a pack. :)

No WTC races for me since 2007.

I'm not saying that makes it OK, but really at the age group level, WTF are people stealing artificial times for? I thought the entire point of age group sport was to challenge ourselves.

Dev

As for blaming WTC on the marshalling front, well it is never acceptable when there are no marshalls but when did we all lose accountability for ourselves. Just cause someone is drafting in a pack and stealing your Kona slot, it does not make it acceptable to join the train and get on a level playing field of Kona slot stealing. This is exactly why everyone in the pro peloton had to be on EPO in the 90's and 2000's.

Dev

Who on earth would starky draft off of?! Was there anyone going 28 mph? No there wasn’t. I’m sure the pro race, aside for woman’s race I bet, was honest since they were ahead of everyone. Pro women probably got the shaft like usual with all of those packs catching up to some of them and causing problems.

The story I heard this morning is that WTC was limited on the number of motorcycles that they were allowed for marshals on the course by State Officials. The number I heard was 3 motorcycles and WTC choose to marshal the PRO race. I can't state this as fact but that was the discussion at breakfast this morning.It is clear to me based on my on course observations what nearly all the age groupers choose todo.

The story I heard this morning is that WTC was limited on the number of motorcycles that they were allowed for marshals on the course by State Officials. The number I heard was 3 motorcycles and WTC choose to marshal the PRO race. I can't state this as fact but that was the discussion at breakfast this morning.It is clear to me based on my on course observations what nearly all the age groupers choose todo.

Who on earth would starky draft off of?! Was there anyone going 28 mph? No there wasn’t. I’m sure the pro race, aside for woman’s race I bet, was honest since they were ahead of everyone. Pro women probably got the shaft like usual with all of those packs catching up to some of them and causing problems.

Explains why American pros have done so poorly at Kona over the last 15 years, in domestic races they get to draft with impunity.

Are you 100% sure that was sarcasm? Because I believe his first point about not catching a break on race distance. So I’m not entirely sure after how some people have talked about this race. Heck a few have called matt Hanson a liar about the run distance even when he gave the damn file! You can never be too sure on ST!

The story I heard this morning is that WTC was limited on the number of motorcycles that they were allowed for marshals on the course by State Officials. The number I heard was 3 motorcycles and WTC choose to marshal the PRO race. I can't state this as fact but that was the discussion at breakfast this morning.It is clear to me based on my on course observations what nearly all the age groupers choose todo.

There's a certain amount of, "Everyone else is doing it. So it's OK if I do it too. In fact, anyone would be stupid not to do it!" And not just in sports.

There are a lot of folks who defend or choose to look the other way when cyclists, baseball players, politicians, or anyone else is caught cheating or admits to cheating because "Everyone was/is doing it so it's a level playing field."

Doing the right thing and/or being held accountable for your actions has gone by the wayside.

Check out crash at 42:32 danger of riding in packs - GIF here - https://d.pr/i/1LmH8U
and this, unreal

That's just the Prince and his entourage, no?