Oh the irony.

Most triathletes still over calorie themselves on a long term basis.

Maybe I'll write a tell all book. It'll be a best seller if 15 sales makes one a best seller ;-)

First story of the book:

JOnny shows up late one Jan/early Feb when I was living in Tucson and had a roommate. I think I forgot to tell my roommate that he was showing up since my roommate was pissed at me when I got home. Clearly Jonny's fault since I wouldn't have anything to forget had he not been staying with me. He knew 2 words of english. Toaster and something else My French is atrocious...at best. We go for a run that evening. Now remember he's from some frozen tundra with no sunshine in the winter.I think they call it Canada or something like that. it's well north of Tucson and freaking cold in the winter. You can't go outside with skin exposed and expect to live...or so I've been told. He's not seen sunshine since July or August is my guess given how white his legs were. It would be an understatement to say the reflection from the streetlights off his skin was blinding. Every streetlight we ran under was like having a lightening bolt flash right next to you. If jonny was a paint color it'd be called "really, really, really, f*cking white and whiter still." We go for a 5k run, well he runs I jog, and I thought there is no way this dude is going to make it, he's got no business trying to be a FT triathlete.

And folks that's how I got my first ever migraine and jonny's adventure living with me started.

So I do a good job of just usually ignoring you but this one I'll let you have it because your inability to relate to anything other than yourself is truly amazing. Logical applies to the masses not to one person and in this case the word to describe this would be anything but logical. Id say it is narrow sighted and tunnel vision.

First and foremost, races are on weekends when there are no other commitments on our schedules (because we blocked it off for racing) so how that factors into the topic I'm speaking of is beyond me. Furthermore, like most Age Group athletes, I have a regular full time position where I work 8 hours a day with the added bonus of a 1 hour commute each way. That's 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, dedicated to my career and that's bare minimum. Waking up at 4am isn't an option for me as my gym doesn't even open until 6am, when I have to be well into my morning routine to get to work on time. That "LOGICAL" idea isn't really standing up here.

Secondly, when it comes to loosing weight, it is more than a simple in/out formula after the initial rigors work themselves out. There is your metabolism, then there is your digestion, then there is the macros and micro nutrients. We aren't the general population here. If we train as hard and often as we all claim the generic rules get grey when figuring out this portion of your unique anatomy. Issues you can run into range from how to avoid becoming anemic, how to put lean muscle on, how to properly fuel for your weekdays vs your weekends, how to supplement to when to eat those calories, what the source of calories should be, etc. Reducing it down to calories and a scale likely will hit it's limits of usefulness quickly.

I implore you to exercise more since you SO LOVE TO. Exercise restraint to type stupid nonsense posts on here that will only invoke many to troll and flame you. If you have no context to the topic or believe you do may I suggest the George Costanza method. Whatever you think, do the opposite, I trust you'll have better results as he did.

...Waking up at 4am isn't an option for me as my gym doesn't even open until 6am, when I have to be well into my morning routine to get to work on time. That "LOGICAL" idea isn't really standing up here.

i just don't think it's right to encourage eating disorders
and i'm pretty sure you aren't either

i highly highly highly doubt you are a kona champion who are you normann... macca ?? i mean i'm looking to break 10 this season in 18-24 hopefully i'll be at kona next year so i'm competitive in my ag just because you have been to kona and performed well does not make you a champion or a nutritionist but will probably lead to an overinflated ego.. being healthy will lead to more performance as well as losing weight. you have no studies supporting your diet it's pretty much bs imo you're just gonna make a lot of people burn out. i mean you have to imagine peter reid was probably taking a lot of test so to a normal person on no drugs they would probably have hormonal issues dieting and training hard

I am curious what is the appropriate level of hunger to endure. I have nights where I will wake up at 1am and be absolutely starving...to the point where I cannot fall back asleep without eating something (typically carbs). I have tried everything..glass of water, celery sticks, carrots, nothing. Typically I will lay awake until my wakeup time (4:30am). I count all my calories in and out and I am strongly believe I am not underfueling during the day. I have experimented eating smaller dinners (500 calories) or larger dinners (1500+ calories) or high fiber/high fat for slower digestion with similar issues ... fall asleep at 9pm and wake up around 12-1am absolutely starving. Is this common? Do I just need to HTFU?

Maybe I'll write a tell all book. It'll be a best seller if 15 sales makes one a best seller ;-)

First story of the book:

JOnny shows up late one Jan/early Feb when I was living in Tucson and had a roommate. I think I forgot to tell my roommate that he was showing up since my roommate was pissed at me when I got home. Clearly Jonny's fault since I wouldn't have anything to forget had he not been staying with me. He knew 2 words of english. Toaster and something else My French is atrocious...at best. We go for a run that evening. Now remember he's from some frozen tundra with no sunshine in the winter.I think they call it Canada or something like that. it's well north of Tucson and freaking cold in the winter. You can't go outside with skin exposed and expect to live...or so I've been told. He's not seen sunshine since July or August is my guess given how white his legs were. It would be an understatement to say the reflection from the streetlights off his skin was blinding. Every streetlight we ran under was like having a lightening bolt flash right next to you. If jonny was a paint color it'd be called "really, really, really, f*cking white and whiter still." We go for a 5k run, well he runs I jog, and I thought there is no way this dude is going to make it, he's got no business trying to be a FT triathlete.

And folks that's how I got my first ever migraine and jonny's adventure living with me started.

i highly highly highly doubt you are a kona champion who are you normann... macca ?? i mean i'm looking to break 10 this season in 18-24 hopefully i'll be at kona next year so i'm competitive in my ag just because you have been to kona and performed well does not make you a champion or a nutritionist but will probably lead to an overinflated ego.. being healthy will lead to more performance as well as losing weight. you have no studies supporting your diet it's pretty much bs imo you're just gonna make a lot of people burn out. i mean you have to imagine peter reid was probably taking a lot of test so to a normal person on no drugs they would probably have hormonal issues dieting and training hard

I am curious what is the appropriate level of hunger to endure. I have nights where I will wake up at 1am and be absolutely starving...to the point where I cannot fall back asleep without eating something (typically carbs). I have tried everything..glass of water, celery sticks, carrots, nothing. Typically I will lay awake until my wakeup time (4:30am). I count all my calories in and out and I am strongly believe I am not underfueling during the day. I have experimented eating smaller dinners (500 calories) or larger dinners (1500+ calories) or high fiber/high fat for slower digestion with similar issues ... fall asleep at 9pm and wake up around 12-1am absolutely starving. Is this common? Do I just need to HTFU?