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Re: 2014 Felt AR [alexvpaq] [ In reply to ]
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Went at the shop today to drop some parts for my ar5 ( tires and bottle cages). One of the guy there was like : hey remember how I told you it could take up to 15 days? I was wrong, it's here already! I'll build it up in the next one or two days when I'll have the time!

Got a little look at the frame set and it is looking beautiful!!
Can't wait at all now. It's just pure torture!

Congrats, I've been riding one since November, and I love the bike. Enjoy!
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave wrote:
alexvpaq wrote:
SuperDave wrote:
alexvpaq wrote:
Really considering the ar5 and installing the bontrager race lite aero (aluminum version) any reason why this wouldn't work? And do you have any idea what's the weight of the stock handlebar? Also, anything special I should know about getting my first carbon road bike after riding for years on a cheaper alloy one?


There is no reason that any 31.8 clamp diameter clip-on bar couldn't be used on the AR5. The stock handlebar is about 318g.
You should make yourself familiar with our carbon care guide included on our website and pay particular attention while fixing the bike to a car rack, repair stand or stationary trainer.

-SD
http://www.bontrager.com/model/11292

but still it was more about cable routing, I'll let the shop deal with it anyway but... I wanted to know if there may be some issues with compatibility to the ar internal routing
Also, Bontrager really should work on making distinct names for different products...

I considered that you might be replacing the handlebar but I found that to be an odd item to swap on a new bike. It wouldn't have been on my list of the first 50 changes.
-SD

So then...what would be your first changes?

My remaining list was shaping up to be Enve aero drop bars and stem, upgrade from 6800 to 6870, jag wire elite links for the front and rear brakes. 4iii left/right power meter.

I fear that the power meter will be a clearance issue with the stock ultegra brake and that may mean an eebrake in the future as well.
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [LOW2000] [ In reply to ]
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LOW2000 wrote:
So then...what would be your first changes?

My remaining list was shaping up to be Enve aero drop bars and stem, upgrade from 6800 to 6870, jag wire elite links for the front and rear brakes. 4iii left/right power meter.

I fear that the power meter will be a clearance issue with the stock ultegra brake and that may mean an eebrake in the future as well.

Sounds like you have a very good plan!

I finally got the bike the fork isn't cut yet. Since I'm riding it around to see if the fit is right.
However, the bike is very very comfortable! Obviously, I come from an aluminum bike so it was obviously going to be this way but it is better than most carbon bikes I tried before.
Also I have 105 5700 on my previous bike and 5800 makes the previous one feel like crap. It blew my mind how much shimano improved their105 group set.

Overall, the whole bike is amazing, my only issues are very simple, the saddle, I will very likely have to go back to my arione. Also the bar tape. It feels a bit too squishy for my own taste but I'll keep it anyway, it's not as if it was a real issue.
And pictures:
http://imgur.com/a/mmI5V
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [alexvpaq] [ In reply to ]
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alexvpaq wrote:
LOW2000 wrote:
So then...what would be your first changes?

My remaining list was shaping up to be Enve aero drop bars and stem, upgrade from 6800 to 6870, jag wire elite links for the front and rear brakes. 4iii left/right power meter.

I fear that the power meter will be a clearance issue with the stock ultegra brake and that may mean an eebrake in the future as well.

Sounds like you have a very good plan!

I finally got the bike the fork isn't cut yet. Since I'm riding it around to see if the fit is right.
However, the bike is very very comfortable! Obviously, I come from an aluminum bike so it was obviously going to be this way but it is better than most carbon bikes I tried before.
Also I have 105 5700 on my previous bike and 5800 makes the previous one feel like crap. It blew my mind how much shimano improved their105 group set.

Overall, the whole bike is amazing, my only issues are very simple, the saddle, I will very likely have to go back to my arione. Also the bar tape. It feels a bit too squishy for my own taste but I'll keep it anyway, it's not as if it was a real issue.
And pictures:
http://imgur.com/a/mmI5V

If they're using the same foam bar tape as the 2014s, it disintegrates after about 1000 miles.
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [LOW2000] [ In reply to ]
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LOW2000 wrote:
My remaining list was shaping up to be Enve aero drop bars and stem, upgrade from 6800 to 6870, jag wire elite links for the front and rear brakes. 4iii left/right power meter.

I fear that the power meter will be a clearance issue with the stock ultegra brake and that may mean an eebrake in the future as well.

Just thinking out loud here, but with the cost of replacing the existing brake for an eebrake, if you were to add that money spent to the going price for a 4iiii (esp if you take both left/right?) wouldn't you be really damn close to say the price of a quarq or power2max? Or are there other factors beside cost which steer you toward the 4iii?
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [snaaijert] [ In reply to ]
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Well, public service announcement. The Jagwire Road Elite Link Brake kit doesn't supply enough links to run the full length of a 61cm frame. Not sure what i'm going to do now, I don't see that you can buy the links separately so that leaves me with either dealing with the mediocre rear brake performance that the stock setup provides, or buying a complete extra set from Jagwire just to cannibalize it for the extra links I need to make the full run from the handlebars down through the frame to the brake itself.

Any ideas?
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [LOW2000] [ In reply to ]
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LOW2000 wrote:
Well, public service announcement. The Jagwire Road Elite Link Brake kit doesn't supply enough links to run the full length of a 61cm frame. Not sure what i'm going to do now, I don't see that you can buy the links separately so that leaves me with either dealing with the mediocre rear brake performance that the stock setup provides, or buying a complete extra set from Jagwire just to cannibalize it for the extra links I need to make the full run from the handlebars down through the frame to the brake itself.

Any ideas?

Did you try contacting Jagwire?

-SD

https://www.kickstarter.com/...bike-for-the-new-era
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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SuperDave wrote:
LOW2000 wrote:
Well, public service announcement. The Jagwire Road Elite Link Brake kit doesn't supply enough links to run the full length of a 61cm frame. Not sure what i'm going to do now, I don't see that you can buy the links separately so that leaves me with either dealing with the mediocre rear brake performance that the stock setup provides, or buying a complete extra set from Jagwire just to cannibalize it for the extra links I need to make the full run from the handlebars down through the frame to the brake itself.

Any ideas?


Did you try contacting Jagwire?

-SD

Well I have now....

Sometimes the simplest of solutions elude me...
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [LOW2000] [ In reply to ]
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I was worried about this too. I used a normal brake housing from Jagwire with an inline adjuster and I am quite pleased with the braking I am getting. I will hold off on the compeessionless housing for now and save myself $80 to $100
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [53x12] [ In reply to ]
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I'm using the 3T seat post on my 2015 AR1. Because I only own carbon rail saddles, I had to purchase the 3T diff lock system for oval (carbon) rails. $80

Unfortunately it isn't working properly and my saddle slides out of position during my rides, up to 1.3cm which isn't cool. You would think an $80 component just to use a carbon rail saddle would work properly. Anyone else have this issue?

The clamp doesn't seat properly around the saddle rails for both Selle Italia and Specialized carbon rails. I have tried carbon paste to take up some of the play but it doesn't work.
#frustrated
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Any comment on, in honor of the other Dave, what would be your "Top 10 Felt AR modifications"?
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [LOW2000] [ In reply to ]
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I come from a very unaero bike, a 2008 trek 1.5 and to be very honest, I didn't quite feel the improvement in the aerodynamics at first but today, It blew my mind, 15°head wind at 20 mp/h and there I was, rock solid, I could see the other guys being pushed by the wind and I was there, unaffected while usually, it was totally the other way around since I'm a light guy. The wind actually didn't feel like as much of an hurdle as it used to be. You'd think these larger tubes would actually be more affected by the wind but it's not the case at all.
Also yesterday, I was alone in some similar head wind, it wasn't easier or anything but I was able to keep a faster speed than usual without pushing harder. Easily 1 or 2 mph faster.

Take it with a grain of salt though, I have no power meter to back it up but I'm not complaining!

And to answer LOW2000


Not in any particular order but in my head here are the stuff I will improve over the years for my AR5
1 new wheelset, something more aero and lighter
2 aero drop bars
3 group set to dura ace or SRAM red
4 handlebar tape
5 chain catcher ( already on the way)
Other than that it's really just lighter parts
Lighter saddle, lighter pedals, lighter stem, lighter skewers. Lighter stuff really. Different cables I don't know at this point.

Oh, I switched to my good old arione. It's much much better now.
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [titemple652] [ In reply to ]
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Oh and it is also impossible to achive the proper saddle angle (level) because the of the splines in that 3T diff loc ratchet system. My saddle is either pointed too high or too low. This really isn't working for me.
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Saw that they had the 2016 models posted on the website, liking the new paintjobs! Someone in another thread complained about some bikebrands stamping their name on it so many times, these bikes are basically the antithesis of that! (a good thing in my book)
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [titemple652] [ In reply to ]
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Oh and it is also impossible to achive the proper saddle angle (level) because the of the splines in that 3T diff loc ratchet system. My saddle is either pointed too high or too low. This really isn't working for me.

You are not adjusting the saddle angle properly.
Check online for the DiffLock instructional video. The difference in the finest spline movement is nearly imperceptible to the naked eye.

Dave

https://www.kickstarter.com/...bike-for-the-new-era
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Dave I followed these to a T. It doesn't because of poor manufqcturing tolerances. Not only can I not get my saddle level but When I torque the end cap bolts to 5Nm there is over 1mm of play at the saddle rails and the saddle ends up sliding out of position after 5 mins of riding. I can actually bump the saddle moderately with my hand and get it to move.
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [alexvpaq] [ In reply to ]
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alexvpaq wrote:
I come from a very unaero bike, a 2008 trek 1.5 and to be very honest, I didn't quite feel the improvement in the aerodynamics at first but today, It blew my mind, 15°head wind at 20 mp/h and there I was, rock solid, I could see the other guys being pushed by the wind and I was there, unaffected while usually, it was totally the other way around since I'm a light guy. The wind actually didn't feel like as much of an hurdle as it used to be. You'd think these larger tubes would actually be more affected by the wind but it's not the case at all.
Also yesterday, I was alone in some similar head wind, it wasn't easier or anything but I was able to keep a faster speed than usual without pushing harder. Easily 1 or 2 mph faster.

Take it with a grain of salt though, I have no power meter to back it up but I'm not complaining! snip...

1 would be huge. 2 would be ever huger :-)... I have a Felt FC built with Red/Quarq Riken and now a AR built with Red/Quark Riken. Same bars. Same saddle. Exact same fit. I'd estimate the AR is very slightly faster. Somewhere around 0.25-0.5mph at 26-ish. With that said, it's amazing how much a nearly imperceptible amount of wind can mess with speed. Not to mention a slight bend in the arms etc...So my numbers should be taken with a grain of salt as well.

One thing I have not taken the time to do is a roll down test. Wonder if that would be a better way to highlight any difference? It would take the noise of power discrepancy out of the picture. Not that it matters. Both frames have proven to be sleepers. Slightly confused why I don't see more on the road.
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [woodys737] [ In reply to ]
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One thing I have not taken the time to do is a roll down test. Wonder if that would be a better way to highlight any difference? It would take the noise of power discrepancy out of the picture.

Yes, there is a better way, the Chung method. This can get you way better data than a roll down test. Use something like aerolab in golden cheetah to analyze the data.


http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3536905;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;

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Re: 2014 Felt AR [chaparral] [ In reply to ]
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chaparral wrote:
woodys737 wrote:

One thing I have not taken the time to do is a roll down test. Wonder if that would be a better way to highlight any difference? It would take the noise of power discrepancy out of the picture.


Yes, there is a better way, the Chung method. This can get you way better data than a roll down test. Use something like aerolab in golden cheetah to analyze the data.


http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3536905;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;
Ok thanks. I've got some work to do. Right off the bat I see GPS on with the Garmin 500 make what I found noise.
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Hey Dave quick question: if you had to guess, assuming the same cockpit and wheels for all three, how would the AR fare against the IA and DA? Let's say my average observed yaw angle is 10degrees.

My dilemma is this: I'm thinking about building up a "super bike" but with vertical dropouts and external brakes. Turns out with the only frames that meet those requirements are the AR, S5, and the old Speed Concept 7.
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [woodys737] [ In reply to ]
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1 would be huge. 2 would be ever huger :-)... I have a Felt FC built with Red/Quarq Riken and now a AR built with Red/Quark Riken. Same bars. Same saddle. Exact same fit. I'd estimate the AR is very slightly faster. Somewhere around 0.25-0.5mph at 26-ish. With that said, it's amazing how much a nearly imperceptible amount of wind can mess with speed. Not to mention a slight bend in the arms etc...So my numbers should be taken with a grain of salt as well.
The 1or 2 is in a headwind, on a flat section by my eyes on the Garmin and perceived effort. So yeah... I could be wrong and this improvement didn't stop me from getting dropped on the group ride lol.
At least, I had the nicest looking bike, that has to amount to something ;)
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [titemple652] [ In reply to ]
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Dave I followed these to a T. It doesn't because of poor manufqcturing tolerances. Not only can I not get my saddle level but When I torque the end cap bolts to 5Nm there is over 1mm of play at the saddle rails and the saddle ends up sliding out of position after 5 mins of riding. I can actually bump the saddle moderately with my hand and get it to move.


I don't think you are installing the splines in all the possible configurations to get the saddle level.

The 3T saddle rail clamp caps are designed for 7mm round rails or there is a version for 7 x 10mm carbon oval rails.
Are you using one of these sizes of saddle rails?
I don't think Velo nor Selle Italia use this size. I think Velo is 7 x 9mm and Selle Italia is 7.4 x 8.5mm IIRC.

-SD
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [SuperDave] [ In reply to ]
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Dave got the saddle 1 degree nose down which is how I need it so thanks.

Looks like I need to switch to non carbon rails for my Romin as this is the saddle I need right now.

Thanks again Dave.
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [titemple652] [ In reply to ]
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I just built up a AR1 frame set and it is great! Here is a pic, before I wrapped the handlebars.[/url][/img]




I also started a facebook page for Felt AR owners to post pic of their set up. (hopefuly Felt is OK with this), I got the idea from a Specialized Venge owners page.

check it out here: https://www.facebook.com/...ps/1578684835727968/
Last edited by: DLR1: May 28, 15 11:41
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Re: 2014 Felt AR [DLR1] [ In reply to ]
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Looks really good. Are those FELT decals on the frame white or silver?
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