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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [McNulty] [ In reply to ]
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furthermore.....

I was never a Cav fanboy before but have grown to appreciate his toughness, and he's become a real pro I think. And putting up with the press isn't easy. When asked a question, he'll give a real answer. Maybe not the one everyone wants to hear, but he's real. Lots of these guys can barely muster the professionalism to focus on the question and the questioner- put out that they have to give an interview at all. Yeah, the questions are redundant and relentless and ridiculous sometimes but its a job. Do the job. It's a pretty good gig.
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [McNulty] [ In reply to ]
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McNulty wrote:
just watched the replay of yesterday's sprint and Kittel (Drago) was absolutely in control, looking around, didn't go to soon, and relaxed (relatively)...made it look easy.....beautiful ride, but I wouldn't send Cav home to his baby mama just yet

you got that right



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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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Nice to see some racing other than in the final 5km.
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
Kittel today - rookie mistake!

tbf, he probably doesn't do too many races (Schedlprijs aside) that get buffeted by the wind.
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [gregf83] [ In reply to ]
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It feels like the yellow and green jeresy storylines are already known. I'm now mostly interested in the white and polka-dot jerseys.


My favorite story line is Kwiatowski vs. Quintana. Like the Giro, we have a young Polish rolleur vs. a young Columbian climber. I think the remainnig extreme mountain stages favour Quintana but Kwiatowski seemed good enough in the Pyranees to maybe hold on and make some time up in the other TT.


The mountain Polkadot Jersy - I think Porte may 'stumble into it' if he ends up guiding Froome up to the top in the front.

While I'm enjoying the Kittel storyline its almost certain that Sagan will be in Green in Paris. As we get to rolling and moyuntainous terrain, the sprint points will either go to the rolleurs, breakaways or Sagan.

The yellow seems a foregone conclussion. You could imagine that SKY is holding Potre back so the team does not look too dominant, but if any pressure comes onto Froome, I suspect Porte will be there to help.

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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Doubletime] [ In reply to ]
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Doubletime wrote:
It feels like the yellow and green jeresy storylines are already known. I'm now mostly interested in the white and polka-dot jerseys.


My favorite story line is Kwiatowski vs. Quintana. Like the Giro, we have a young Polish rolleur vs. a young Columbian climber. I think the remainnig extreme mountain stages favour Quintana but Kwiatowski seemed good enough in the Pyranees to maybe hold on and make some time up in the other TT.


The mountain Polkadot Jersy - I think Porte may 'stumble into it' if he ends up guiding Froome up to the top in the front.

While I'm enjoying the Kittel storyline its almost certain that Sagan will be in Green in Paris. As we get to rolling and moyuntainous terrain, the sprint points will either go to the rolleurs, breakaways or Sagan.

The yellow seems a foregone conclussion. You could imagine that SKY is holding Potre back so the team does not look too dominant, but if any pressure comes onto Froome, I suspect Porte will be there to help.

two cat-2 hills in the last TT
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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oh what a PITI for valverde
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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echappist wrote:
oh what a PITI for valverde

I see what you did there.

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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Power13] [ In reply to ]
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Power13 wrote:
echappist wrote:
oh what a PITI for valverde


I see what you did there.

thankfully someone gets it :)
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Doubletime] [ In reply to ]
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I agree that the green jersey is all but wrapped up, but don't agree with you on the yellow. Personally I think Sky peaked to early so they didn't risk losing time in the early stages. Once we get to the mountains I think we will see Froome get isolated and blow up. Most of the other GC contenders have planned to be on peak form for the upcoming weak, whereas Sky seemed to have peaked last week and it seems like the ever so slight fatique is setting in. Froome admitting that his legs suffered a little after the TT effort and lucky for him it was a fairly easy day of racing. I think we will be in for an exciting week of racing.

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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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and the evil mastermind Bjarnes attacks in the crosswind!

he may have been a doped up donkey and someone who tolerated doping, but this is pure racing shrewdness.
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [gregf83] [ In reply to ]
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*whistles*

Saxo (Contador) off the front, Froome chasing.


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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Jamaican] [ In reply to ]
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and guess which country has two GC contenders in the front group?
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Jamaican] [ In reply to ]
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Most exciting stage of the tour so far. Anyone see this coming?
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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Sky is really missing Eddy Boss today. This is why teams have classics guys on GT squads. They're also really lucky some of the other spint teams missed out or their Tour could have been over
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Chase group (Froome) down 43 seconds down on Contador


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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [recycle2390] [ In reply to ]
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note the country of registration of the teams that were driving the race: Belgium for OPQS and de Nederlands for Belkin.

Common theme? They race in the crosswinds coming off of the North Sea. You bet their DS's (along with Bjarnes) pay attention to this sort of stuff and actively look for opportunities to attack people who may be caught napping. Piti Valverde got caught out last year in the Vuelta, too; so it seems like some DS just don't learn.
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Hmmm....perhaps my assurances yesterday were a bit premature. Wink

Great stage.

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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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And J-Rod is having a 20k flashback to stage 17
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Power13] [ In reply to ]
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Sky is totally blowing up on top of it. Regardless of whether Contador takes time back or not, they're further exposed both on team strength and tactics
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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I can't wait for the mountains to come. I wasn't expecting this but that's why Contador is always good to have in a race :)
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Carl Spackler wrote:
Sky is really missing Eddy Boss today. This is why teams have classics guys on GT squads. They're also really lucky some of the other spint teams missed out or their Tour could have been over

Apparently Sky hasn't learned how to make marginal gains re: race tactics. Actually, the gain they need is substantial, not marginal; just note how badly they usually do in the classics.

That said, i remember last year in Paris-Nice that Wiggo forced a split in the crosswinds. I guess having mass-start track racing background (Wiggo) really helps with your sense of tactics.
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Re: 2013 TdF thread (spoiler alert) [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, SKY is now down to what...2 guys in the chase group? Not good.

Well spotted re: Boasson Hagen. They desperately need a big HP guy right now.

Horrible day for Valverde.....awful timing on that puncture.

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