I am currently 30lbs out of racing weight (5' 11" and 200lbs). I have bought the book "racing weight" and I am trying to follow as many of the ideal eating patterns as possible. I have also set a goal beginnng today to burn 1000kcal per day though exercise 6 of the 7 days per week.

I have noticed my Sunto watch and powertap are within 5% for the reported caloric expenditure at high zone 2 intensities. When my HR goes up the predicted values on my watch are lower then the measured power tap values.
Not sure what running/skiing would be like, but it is cool that the watch prediction is fairly accurate with one type of execise at the zone I spend most of my time training.

This thread reminds me of this:

Dude. If your powertap told you how many kcal you burned based only on the power you expend to turn the pedals then the value will be off by a VERY large percentage. I certainly hope you're not trying to tell me that your body doesn't burn calories generating heat, etc, and that there is no need to take this into account.

Here's the deal, without HR data, your PT has to solve the following problem to get total calorie expenditure:
Calories expended to do mechanical work over time at the rear wheel hub (about 10-15% of your body's total calorie expenditure)
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Account for "other" calories expended by your body, in the form of heat, work done on other parts of your body (a la out of saddle sprints where you move your torso), biological processes etc. (about 85-90% of your body's total calorie expenditure)
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Net calories

My point is simply that the PT isn't some gold standard for measuring calorie expenditure because it is extrapolating the 85-90% based on the 10-15%.

I am currently 30lbs out of racing weight (5' 11" and 200lbs). I have bought the book "racing weight" and I am trying to follow as many of the ideal eating patterns as possible. I have also set a goal beginnng today to burn 1000kcal per day though exercise 6 of the 7 days per week.


Why not just eat a well balanced diet and exercise 1 hour per day and forget about the numbers. You'll lose the 30 lbs., before this thread is finished.

The 1000kcal a day goal was pretty much just meant to be a carrot. A goal for each day. Thats all. I still have Key workouts for running, swimming and biking, and throw in some xc skiing 2-3 times per week.

Someone said it earlier. smartest post of the thread.

You can't out train your mouth. Diet is obviously an issue.

Pretty much.

Paolo probably has as much tri knowledge as anyone else on this forum. But you learn as little from him as anyone else on this forum. He knows that and enjoys whatever his role is here. I know little and teach little, so I have little room to complain about it. But you aren't alone in noticing it, that's for sure.

I think she confused it with largess. Pretty common mistake.

she didn't confuse it with anything, it never happened.http://www.hoax-slayer.com/...-quiz-question.shtml

I didn't change my mind. At all. Where the fuck do you fools get that idea from? Holy shit. Nobody posted anything substantive yesterday (although I may have missed a post or two) so I quit wasting my time on all of you, especially paulo and the other trolls/flamers that were messing with me.

Hopefully you will learn to spell my name right ;)

In fact, if the PT isn't using HR to calculate expenditure, then I'd say the data is about as useful as a poopoo flavored lollipop.

I think it would be hard for you to make the case that a model based on rear-wheel power only (assuming the PT isn't collecting HR data) is better than one that takes into account HR, height, weight, etc.

Here's the deal, without HR data, your PT has to solve the following problem to get total calorie expenditure:
Calories expended to do mechanical work over time at the rear wheel hub (about 10-15% of your body's total calorie expenditure)

What the fuck is wrong with you people. Seriously can nobody here write a fucking statement with out someone acting like a little prick just caught cutting class. Grow up and start making claims with some writing to back it up. If you have time to read the post that do not complain when someone replies.

This whole fucking thread turned into a pissing question with nobody offering anything of real value.

sentania wrote:

Paulo's posts are some of the most valuable on ST, and if you take a look at many of the critique me threads - he's actually quite helpful.

The problem most people have - which leads them to believe that Paulo is an assclown - is the expectation for an answer, followed by an explanation. In my experience, paulo tends to simply answer the question at hand, and move on. No explanation given - he is not in the business of education or spoon feeding knowledge to people.