I hope they make the course a bit more exciting than what GP Montreal uses. It’s gotten very predictable.
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Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [marcag]
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I hope they make the course a bit more exciting than what GP Montreal uses. It’s gotten very predictable.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [echappist]
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I hope they make the course a bit more exciting than what GP Montreal uses. It’s gotten very predictable.
I can't imagine it'll be the same course, since it looks like they're also doing the GP Montreal a couple of weeks beforehand. May be that they incorporate more of the hills/mountains outside of the city for this one.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [ClayDavis]
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Let's hope so.
I think the key to course design is that unless the planners absolutely want a sprint finish (see Denmark 2011) or have some really difficult challenge that will ensure riders finish in 3s and 4s at most, the course should be designed to encourage attacking.
In which case, no 2-5 minute long finishing climb sequences (think old Liege and old Amstel), as those invariably end in an uphill sprint. But do give people launch pads at 10-15 km out and incentivize attacking.
I think the key to course design is that unless the planners absolutely want a sprint finish (see Denmark 2011) or have some really difficult challenge that will ensure riders finish in 3s and 4s at most, the course should be designed to encourage attacking.
In which case, no 2-5 minute long finishing climb sequences (think old Liege and old Amstel), as those invariably end in an uphill sprint. But do give people launch pads at 10-15 km out and incentivize attacking.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [echappist]
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How about using the course that was used for the 1974 worlds that Merckx won? How tough was that one, with multiple ascents of Mt Royal?
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [Bdaghisallo]
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How about using the course that was used for the 1974 worlds that Merckx won? How tough was that one, with multiple ascents of Mt Royal?I think that course basically was what they use today for the GP.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [ClayDavis]
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ClayDavis wrote:
Bdaghisallo wrote:
How about using the course that was used for the 1974 worlds that Merckx won? How tough was that one, with multiple ascents of Mt Royal?I think that course basically was what they use today for the GP.
Ah. I've never watched any of the new Canadian WT events in Quebec so I wasn't sure. That course was thought to be a hard one back in 1974. I guess the deeper fields of today and higher overall fitness have neutered the course somewhat.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [Bdaghisallo]
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Bdaghisallo wrote:
ClayDavis wrote:
Bdaghisallo wrote:
How about using the course that was used for the 1974 worlds that Merckx won? How tough was that one, with multiple ascents of Mt Royal?I think that course basically was what they use today for the GP.
Ah. I've never watched any of the new Canadian WT events in Quebec so I wasn't sure. That course was thought to be a hard one back in 1974. I guess the deeper fields of today and higher overall fitness have neutered the course somewhat.
It still is a tough course, but just like how the old Amstel and old Liege courses were tough but nonetheless ended up being a group gallop up a hill, the same applies to the GP Montreal course.
On paper, the finish to those new Amstel and Liege courses are easier compared to their older counterparts, but in reality, the easier finishes, by removing the descending and flats between the penultimate and finishing climb (and thus removed any opportunity for regrouping) actually induce moves from further out.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [echappist]
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I’ve gotta cheer for Vos tomorrow (or is it tonight?) for stripes. Anyone know which rider has the longest time between road world championships? Freire had quite a few between the last two.
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Carl Spackler: Sep 23, 22 16:46
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [Carl Spackler]
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This has been a season of lower-division teams punching above their weight class, and Wildlife Generation does that again by wiping the floor with Astana's "rap video."
"Altitude training gets the body ready to use less oxygen, newbie."
"Yeah, I think I figured that out."
Edit: Oh, sorry if this is ancient news. I thought it was new because of the CyclingTips article, but the video has been up on YouTube for over a year.
"Altitude training gets the body ready to use less oxygen, newbie."
"Yeah, I think I figured that out."
Edit: Oh, sorry if this is ancient news. I thought it was new because of the CyclingTips article, but the video has been up on YouTube for over a year.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [Carl Spackler]
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I’ve gotta route for Vos tomorrow (or is it tonight?) for stripes. Anyone know which rider has the longest time between road world championships? Freire had quite a few between the last two.Vos herself is surely up there. Won her first rainbow stripes on the road while still a teen, only to proceed to get 6x (or was it 7x) straight 2nd place finishes before winning again in 2012.
Hard to believe she has yet to win since 2013.
Eta: i forgot she’s also the reigning CX world champ. Apparently an 8-year gap there.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [echappist]
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Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [trail]
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Speaking of juniors, this might be best sprint of the year https://www.instagram.com/...?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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Carl Spackler: Sep 23, 22 16:48
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [Carl Spackler]
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Speaking of juniors, this might be best sprint of the year https://www.instagram.com/...?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=Yeah, I watched that one live. It was hilarious when the mic picked up the German kid asking the other kid, "So I can win the race?" just a few minutes prior. Glad the Portugese kid decided instead to make him work for it.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [trail]
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Zoe Backstedt is just shredding the Jr. race. She blew up the field and took off solo within the first 7km, and hasn't looked back. AvV/AvdB-style Good pickup by EF-Tibco for next year.
Wait , what? That was on?
The time zone differences is really confusing
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Also, Backstedt is the reigning world champ in four different disciplines. We may be looking at the next Marianne Vos
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [echappist]
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Women’s race on now.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [Carl Spackler]
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Women’s race on now.One of the best (if not the best) race I have ever watched.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [rmba]
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Incredible finish. AvV usually bludgeons the peloton, this time she showed that she’s clever too.
A classic, monument, GC in all three “tours” and WC. A stellar career of wins all in one season.
A classic, monument, GC in all three “tours” and WC. A stellar career of wins all in one season.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [Carl Spackler]
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Women’s race on now.I caught a few glimpses before bed, but just can’t stay up til 2am. I find that as i get older, staying up past 1 am has some serious penalties the next day. Whereas 7-8 hours would otherwise suffice, i’d need ~9-10 hours, worse if i stay up til 3.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [Carl Spackler]
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I just love it when the best rider of the season wins the Worlds. It’s like poetic justice. AvV truly deserves this win. I don’t like it when the dark horse wins, but in a way the dark horse won today considering her injuries.
AvV sure has had her share of injuries. Horrific Rio ‘16 crash, Giro broken wrist 2020, last years Paris Robaix smash up with broken pubic bone, broken wrist this spring, now this broken elbow. (Sure I’m missing a few).
AvV sure has had her share of injuries. Horrific Rio ‘16 crash, Giro broken wrist 2020, last years Paris Robaix smash up with broken pubic bone, broken wrist this spring, now this broken elbow. (Sure I’m missing a few).
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [Carl Spackler]
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Incredible finish. AvV usually bludgeons the peloton, this time she showed that she’s clever too. A classic, monument, GC in all three “tours” and WC. A stellar career of wins all in one season.
Just watched the finish, yeah I knew you'd have enjoyed that kilo effort. Her only possible move to win, and she timed it to perfection.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [J7]
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Impressive win and impressive season from AvV. Getting dropped every climb, staying with it, and playing the card she had in the finale.
And what's with the UCI and Iain Treloar? Just makes them seem like total clowns and justifies the criticism. I'm sure it's a minor inconvenience for Iain and if I were him I'd wear it like a badge of honour.
And what's with the UCI and Iain Treloar? Just makes them seem like total clowns and justifies the criticism. I'm sure it's a minor inconvenience for Iain and if I were him I'd wear it like a badge of honour.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [echappist]
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echappist wrote:
Carl Spackler wrote:
Incredible finish. AvV usually bludgeons the peloton, this time she showed that she’s clever too. A classic, monument, GC in all three “tours” and WC. A stellar career of wins all in one season.
Just watched the finish, yeah I knew you'd have enjoyed that kilo effort. Her only possible move to win, and she timed it to perfection.
Once # 16 dropped I kept seeing that #12 sitting on and Boom. What an effort.
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [McNulty]
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How are y’all watching?
Re: **Spoilers** 2022 Cycling Thread [McNulty]
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Oh boy, disadvantage for MvdP
Van der Poel confirmed the story with media prior to the start of the race on Sunday morning. “It’s true, yes. There was a small dispute. It was about noisy neighbors and they are quite strict here,” he said.
“I wasn’t back in my room until 4 o’clock. That’s certainly not ideal. It’s a disaster, but I can’t change anything anymore. I’m trying to make the best of it. It is on little sleep that I will race, hopefully on adrenaline.”
Van der Poel shared his side of the story with Sporza. “I went to bed early and many children in the hallway of my room found it necessary to knock on the door,” he said. “After a few times I was done with it. I did not kindly ask to stop. Then the police were called.”
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Van der Poel confirmed the story with media prior to the start of the race on Sunday morning. “It’s true, yes. There was a small dispute. It was about noisy neighbors and they are quite strict here,” he said.
“I wasn’t back in my room until 4 o’clock. That’s certainly not ideal. It’s a disaster, but I can’t change anything anymore. I’m trying to make the best of it. It is on little sleep that I will race, hopefully on adrenaline.”
Van der Poel shared his side of the story with Sporza. “I went to bed early and many children in the hallway of my room found it necessary to knock on the door,” he said. “After a few times I was done with it. I did not kindly ask to stop. Then the police were called.”
I'm trying to watch on GCN but the website seems like it isn't working.
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