I saw a new product at a tradeshow that is tryng to challenge Neverreach. It's call SipAway and it is 1/5th the cost of a Neverreach system. Neverreach (60oz.) has SipAway (28oz.) beat if you are a long distance competitor but if you are doing olympic or sprint distant races, it looks damn good. Anyone have either of these? I thinking I'm going to go ahead and order one of them for this years races. www.neverreach.com & www.sipaway.com I thought I would check with the experts first. The demo at the trade show looked great. You didn't have to draw very hard at all on the SipAway to get the fluid moving. Then is just hung at the end of the straw as you stopped drink. Does Neverreach do that? For $20 I'll probably end up going the SipAway route. Any feedback would be great, Thanks.
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Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [dodgell]
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never seen the sip a way before now..I'd say it looks very much like the straw from a Camelback type system extended to reach your water bottle. Once the water gets to your mouth the back check valve in the mouth of the straw keeps it from flowing back down to the bottle. Creative to be sure. I fondly recall the days of the Bikestream. Where or where have they gone....sigh.
Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [Kentiger]
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Although I don't know anyone who's used this before, it's definately pretty sweet. It might be worth looking into....
http://www.quickquench.com/
It might be a little on the heavy side though.
Jonathan Blyer,
ACME Bicycle Co., Brooklyn, NY
http://www.quickquench.com/
It might be a little on the heavy side though.
Jonathan Blyer,
ACME Bicycle Co., Brooklyn, NY
Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [dodgell]
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The thing that I never liked about the neverreach was that if you use it, there is no place on the bike to put tools/tubes/co2/etc. Looks like the sipaway has solved that problem.
-C
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Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [CCF]
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Hmmm Good point about spare/air/extras behind the seat. I think I'll get the SipAway. We'll see if it as good in action as the demo was... THANKS!!!
Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [dodgell]
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Not sure about he advantage/disadvantage of a pressurized system. Seems to me it would be subject to leakage.
Be that as it may, I use NeverReach® and I think it's great. As you mention, the capacity of the NeverReach is extremely valuable in longer races. Also, according to the testing by PK Racing, the NeverReach also helps smooth airflow off the back of the bike, reducing drag. Don't know how much that's worth, but until I start winning races, I'll go for any gimmick that promises to make me faster.
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Be that as it may, I use NeverReach® and I think it's great. As you mention, the capacity of the NeverReach is extremely valuable in longer races. Also, according to the testing by PK Racing, the NeverReach also helps smooth airflow off the back of the bike, reducing drag. Don't know how much that's worth, but until I start winning races, I'll go for any gimmick that promises to make me faster.
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Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [dodgell]
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I remember seeing homemade versions of the Sipaway 10 years ago. The valve part of a water bottle would be removed from the lid and the tube inseted through the aperture the bottle typically would be mounted behind the rider in a seat mounted cage and the tube routed along the top tube by velro straps and come up into front of the rider at the stem. Looks like someone desided to market that.
"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS
"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS
Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [jk_allen13]
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Whats wrong with those profile bottles that fit between your tri bars ? You can easily refill those on the move, and you don't need to suck quite as much ?
I was planning on buying one - seemed the easiest option.
I was planning on buying one - seemed the easiest option.
Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [cougie]
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No idea. That is my plan for IMC, will have to check how it mounts on my HED aerobar though.
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Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [dodgell]
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I don't see the downside in long course racing using a 20oz bottle over a 60oz container? A typical Ironman has aid stations every 10 miles, 20oz is more than enough. Besides, fluid is heavy, why lug it all over creation?
I wanna go fast!
I wanna go fast!
Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [dodgell]
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I made my own rear mount system a couple of years ago. It worked quite well but looked clunky so I've gone back to the front mounted aero bottle.
Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [cerveloguy]
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How do you refill this thing?? One main advantage of these drink systems is to be able to dump fluid through a large opening on the fly to refill.....this looks like a water bottle w/ a tube??
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Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [holdencain]
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"How do you refill this thing?? "
That's another reason I got rid of it. Mine was two regular rear mounted bottles with a Y connector connecting them to one hose. It worked fine , but would be impossible to fill on the fly.
It was one of those failed winter month basement tinker projects.
That's another reason I got rid of it. Mine was two regular rear mounted bottles with a Y connector connecting them to one hose. It worked fine , but would be impossible to fill on the fly.
It was one of those failed winter month basement tinker projects.
Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [holdencain]
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That's a $3 waterbottle with a $17 tube!!
Not sure if I would have the energy or the concentration to suck the liquid up that distance when really tired.
Just a thought.
Fleck
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Not sure if I would have the energy or the concentration to suck the liquid up that distance when really tired.
Just a thought.
Fleck
Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog
Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [Fleck]
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Now you got me wondering if I got the right one. I didn't think about refilling it. For a sprint I should be fine. You didn't have to suck hard at all to get the fluid up. However I tried the tube and valve at the show. Once the tube is full you just suck one it once and the fluid is right there at the end of the tube. The dude at the booth said you would just draw the fluild to the top of the tube while setting up in T1. Then when your on the bike you just take one sip. I guess I'll know when I get it and the rubber hits the road. .... I feel dirty after typing this message.
Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [dodgell]
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Of course for a sprint, you could leave the bottle in your transition bag and be fine. On a health note, make sure you keep that tube clean. You don't want to start a science experiment in there and be sucking up pond scum.
Re: $100+ Neverreach vs. $20 SipAway [nickc]
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I think the SipAway is a SipA-no-way!! One water bottle of liquid??? Nope. Not worth it from Oly distance on up...and anything less why bother?
HC
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Son of a buck!!! I've been thinking every time I go to take a drink that it would be nice to just have a hose run from my big honkin' gatorade bottle...well...just like that one shows!!!! I'll be dipped in it! I'm still gonna do it anyway.
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