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$%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice?
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For the first 33 years of my time on earth, I had a bullet proof immune system. For the last 2 years, I seem to catch every freakin' cold/earache/cough that comes within a mile of my body. What works to re-energize one's immune system???

I'm NOT overtrained or under-slept. I might train 7 hours a week and I get decent sleep pretty much every night. Stress level is fine, I'm not going nuts at work or at home with stress. My weight has been a constant 165 both before and after my immune system breakdown. I eat a good diet, lots of veggies, fruit, etc. Maybe a bit too much chocolate from the candy dish at work, but I don't live of of Fruit Loops and Coke by any means.

What the hell can I do to get back my bulletproofness?
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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Record10Carbon] [ In reply to ]
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Can wearing a speedo give you AIDS? Or maybe the cycling tights? You could be onto something.....
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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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I was going to post something today on the exact topic. I always deride people for taking anti-biotics and popping every drug in the book everytime they sneeze as I sugget their immune system will get stronger if you fight colds/the flu naturally.

So, I do not take anything but I am now on my second bad cold in the last 2 months and I used to go years without anything.

I was also wondering where the problem is and have started examining my diet/sleep/exercise patterns but can't really pinpoint anything yet.

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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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I know it sounds weird but... Yogurt. Something about the active cultures...
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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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Hey Colin,

I am 32 and went through the same thing last year. At the suggestion of my doctor I had a FIA Comprehensive Profile 5000 and Spectrox Antioxidant Function (blood test) performed. The report is pretty long but it did indicate that I had some serious deficiencies and my antioxidant function is average. I ordered the recommended vitamin supplements that the report suggested and I haven't been ill or really sick since. I think I have had a cold, but it went away pretty quick. My training is better and I feel a lot better and it has been about a year since the blood work and taking the vitamins. The test cost me $75 with insurance but it was worth it because I was getting frustrated with my lack of immune system all of a sudden. The lab that performs the test is SpectraCell Laboratories, Inc. out of Houston, TX. The report is very thorough and makes sense with what I was feeling and how my deficiencies were related. Just an option for you to look into. Good luck with your quest.
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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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If youíre an endurance athlete then you will likely have immune system issues at some point. After 15+ years of training, racing and getting sick that one piece of advice I can honestly give you is this: you MUST totally shut down to get healthy. I know people train with colds but it will linger much longer if you do. I just shut the whole operation down until I'm completely healthy for one full day. Racing sick doesnít make much sense either unless itís an once-in-a-lifetime race because (1) your gonna under perform and (2) your gonna remain sicker for longer.

Immunomodulators can help, I always take Zicam at the first sign of illness and I'll gargle Listerine for 2 minutes straight (yeah I'm tough) at the first sign of a sore throat (you need to lay flat for it to be effective). And of course, stay away from sick people like they've got the plague!

Dave in VA
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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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Do you wash your hands much? Many diseases are transmitted by contact.
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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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How much red meat do you eat?

First thing that comes to mind is low iron. This can really weaken your immune system.



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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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Allergies. Just went to the doctor last Friday, I was having the same issues. Doctor said I had allergies. My body thought is was trying to fight off something that was not there. Prescribe some allergy medicine. I feel like a new person
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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Spindogg] [ In reply to ]
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At first I thought you were suggesting red wine as a cure...man, did I like that idea!

Red meat consumption....not so much really. Far more tofu, chicken and fish than red meat. Maybe twice a month for dead cow consuption.

Handwashing...I guess we could all be better at that. I'm really good after anything in a bathroom, but beyond that I'm not too regular with the handwashing. Not only that, but I've noticed a terrible habit of touching my hands to my face and lips since I've started paying attention to my POS immmune system.
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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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Steak, lean (90-95% lean) burgers, and also mussels and clams.

Canned clams actually have more iron than steak!!! Put 'em in some red sauce over pasta---really tasty.

Citrus fruits/drinks enhance iron absorbtion as well.

Last year I got sick after every race and every hard training block----this has not happened this year. I actually supplement a daily iron tab (per my doc) but the food approach works very well.



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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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Do you work out in a gym? I find that they are germ cesspools. Always wash your hands before you leave and when you get home. Also, public computers are pretty nasty. If you share computers at work, bring some of that alcohol hand sanitizer stuff to use periodically.
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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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What is funny...I was getting a test done last Friday on my cold finger (yes it is still cold, no changes)...the doc (knock out dock) went about off on IM and diet saying there is no way for us to get enough "Micro nutrients" into our systems with out suppliments. I told him I eat well...to that he countered that with farming today the soil has been robbed of what should be there and is now missing from our foods. He was pretty animated about the whole thing...I honestly was waiting for him to take out a Shaklee book....but he may have a very good point.

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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Record10Carbon] [ In reply to ]
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Signs of Nutrient Decline - http://www.motherearthnews.com/....php?id=4&page=1

Is Agribusiness Making Food Less Nutritious? - http://www.motherearthnews.com/...Food_Less_Nutritious

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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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Besides the whole vitamin course of action. I might suggest seeing an ENT doctor. Have these colds been accompanied by sore throats? I apparently was picking up a lot of colds due to bad tonsils/adendoids. WHile a horrible experience of recovery, I have been much healthier (back to normal) since I had the ol' tonsils out. Just another shot in the dark.


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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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Things that come to mind:

#1: hand washing, and don't touch eyes/nose

#2: good nutrition, including supplements. consume adequate calories (and balanced).

#3: always use recovery drink or something after workouts. also helpful to consume carbs during.

#4: control allergies, if you have them. use nasal saline spray or nasal irrigator to promote drainage.

All these things have helped me stay sickness-free, despite having young children in day care, and increasing my training load. If I do get a cold, I barely notice it.
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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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my own obersvations ymmv.

i thought i had occassional and strange dips in my immune system, but when i thought about it, they generally coincided with a busy time where i didnt wash my hands enough, or an airplane trip which is terrible for picking up bugs...as are my nieces, who are walking/crawling/slobbering petri dishes.

ive also had some success with cold fx...a product the venerable? don cherry hawks...seems to help sometimes, but not always.

multivitamins too.

and if all else fails a nice coffee enema. let it cool down first. yow!

but by far and away handwashing i think is the biggest contributor...to keeping infections away.

yea...wot notevenslow says....peachy!
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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [crucible] [ In reply to ]
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The test cost me $75 with insurance but it was worth it because I was getting frustrated with my lack of immune system all of a sudden.
How much do the antioxidant supplements cost you?

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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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you do get physicals, right?
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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [S.C.U.M.] [ In reply to ]
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I haven't had one in about 4 years. Both the doc and I felt they were a waste of time as I was under 40 and didn't have any problems. I take it you think otherwise?
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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Record10Carbon] [ In reply to ]
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my sports med doc said the same thing to me. about 3yrs ago i started using greens+ and have have exactly 1 cold & one sinus infection. and i learned not to run a 30k race with a cold in the sleet.



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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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Have you moved recently? I've had a similar experience with being sick a lot after moving from the midwest to the east coast. New strains to build immunities to.

I've had some success, though, with the Linus Pauling method. At the first, smallest sign of sicknes, I start munching vitamin C tabs throughout the day--I might take 10 or 12. Seems to keep the duration and intensity down. There's actually some valid scientific research supporting this as well.

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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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Welcome to the terminal illness called - getting old... want to get your bullet proofness back? Well... you probably need to go back about 10 yrs. in age.

I ran into the same thing, except on a much more drastic level... I also contracted allergies in addition to colds/flus... serious enough to get hospitalized.

One thing I found help me a lot...

I quite drinking ALL caffeine products (tea, soft drinks, coffee, etc)... it seems that caffeine only makes you alert at times when your body would be better off resting or sleeping. Caffeine simply hindered my ability to rest when my body needed rest. In my case, caffeine has a way of over riding your bodies ability to send out messages that it is tired.

Worked for me... I now seldom have colds or problems with allergies and almost never feel exhausted.

FWIW Joe Moya
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Re: $%*@ Immune system sucks...any advice? [Colin] [ In reply to ]
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I would recommend a Glutamine supplement. There are some studies that show many endurance athletes become deficient in this amino acid. As to why we're more prone to deficiency, I think the jury is still out. Glutamine plays an important role in the proper function of the immune system.

I've been taking it since January this year and haven't had any training set backs from illness despite pretty heavy workloads. Whereas last year I must of had at least 3-4 bouts of URIs that tended to derail the training.
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