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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [sandtiger steve] [ In reply to ]
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I interpreted the article to read: long slow rides as part of a brick workout are generally a waste of time.
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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [PaulS] [ In reply to ]
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Do you guys ever just get on you bike and ride for the fun of it?

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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]
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Yes.


Fortunately I enjoy seeing how much I can torture myself!
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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]
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last tri in 83 wrote:
Do you guys ever just get on you bike and ride for the fun of it?


hell yeah, did that last night! whats more fun than dropping the whole cat4/5 field ?






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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [MOP_Mike] [ In reply to ]
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MOP_Mike wrote:
Whatever cardio or power benefit long, slow rides may or may not have, I bet they benefit your upper body if you ride them "aero". Look at any IM race at about mile 80 -- half of the riders are on the base bar because they can't hold an aero position any longer.

Great point.
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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [Jiowa] [ In reply to ]
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Jiowa wrote:
I would think going fast and long would take time to recover from.

...That's what she said.
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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
last tri in 83 wrote:
Do you guys ever just get on you bike and ride for the fun of it?



hell yeah, did that last night! whats more fun than dropping the whole cat4/5 field ?



Is that the Jackmott fan club behind you in the 2nd pic?
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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [miwoodar] [ In reply to ]
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miwoodar wrote:
Is that the Jackmott fan club behind you in the 2nd pic?

Nothing on this earth is more important than the local cat 4/5 race. It is bigger than the superbowl, and every single one of those people know who I am.


none of this is true



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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
last tri in 83 wrote:
Do you guys ever just get on you bike and ride for the fun of it?



hell yeah, did that last night! whats more fun than dropping the whole cat4/5 field ?

But, did they stay dropped?

BTW, put some socks on so you don't look like some tri-geek out doing a crit ;-)



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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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Warm up lap?
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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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/compression/ socks.
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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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But I *AM* a tri geek doing a crit. My damn jersey says "Austin TRI-Cyclist" and I am riding a TT frame.

;)

they stayed drop for the whole prime lap which is all I was after.

maybe next week I will go for the race win with a similar approach after the 3rd prime....

but don't tell nobody



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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [Pooks] [ In reply to ]
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Pooks wrote:
Warm up lap?

there are no warm up laps in Texas. we go all out from the gun.

there's real gun too, with bullets. they shoot the guy in last place each lap.

again, none of this is true



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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
But I *AM* a tri geek doing a crit. My damn jersey says "Austin TRI-Cyclist" and I am riding a TT frame.

;)

they stayed drop for the whole prime lap which is all I was after.

maybe next week I will go for the race win with a similar approach after the 3rd prime....

but don't tell nobody

How far (long) is the 3rd prime from the finish?

If you take that approach though, I suggest NOT actually trying to win the prime, but use the guys actually going for it as a "launching pad" for your break...and after the initial gap, try not to drill it SO hard that you blow up...remember, you've got to be able to average the same speed as the pack solo (plus another 0.5-1mph due to the speed ramping up in the later laps) to stay away ;-)



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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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Tom A. wrote:

How far (long) is the 3rd prime from the finish?

it varies, 2 or 3 miles probably?

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If you take that approach though, I suggest NOT actually trying to win the prime, but use the guys actually going for it as a "launching pad" for your break...and after the initial gap, try not to drill it SO hard that you blow up...remember, you've got to be able to average the same speed as the pack solo (plus another 0.5-1mph due to the speed ramping up in the later laps) to stay away ;-)

yes, exactly. follow the front guys going for the prime, THEN go.

then pray for lack of motivation in the field for a while!


unless, the third prime is really dumb and nobody wants it, then attack the lap before and maybe they let me go because they think I am just going for the prime..

HMMM



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Last edited by: jackmott: Jun 10, 11 8:51
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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
there's real gun too, with bullets. they shoot the guy in last place each lap.

Damn, that's a hard core Miss-and-Out
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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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jackmott wrote:
hell yeah, did that last night! whats more fun than dropping the whole cat4/5 field ?

Wow, the cat4/5 field!
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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [zone_V] [ In reply to ]
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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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Tom A. wrote:
jackmott wrote:
But I *AM* a tri geek doing a crit. My damn jersey says "Austin TRI-Cyclist" and I am riding a TT frame.

;)

they stayed drop for the whole prime lap which is all I was after.

maybe next week I will go for the race win with a similar approach after the 3rd prime....

but don't tell nobody


How far (long) is the 3rd prime from the finish?

If you take that approach though, I suggest NOT actually trying to win the prime, but use the guys actually going for it as a "launching pad" for your break...and after the initial gap, try not to drill it SO hard that you blow up...remember, you've got to be able to average the same speed as the pack solo (plus another 0.5-1mph due to the speed ramping up in the later laps) to stay away ;-)

I can tell you from experience...attacking so hard that you blow up is, ahhh, really painful. I'm an expert at it! However, I am pleased to report that I have typically been overaggressive rather than underaggressive. :)

Ding ding ding on sucking wheels behind a late prime. Last weekend it got me into the winning break by accident. I looked back a half lap after the prime and the peloton was taking their sweet time closing the gap, asked my neighbor if he wanted to go for it, and off we went.
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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [miwoodar] [ In reply to ]
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miwoodar wrote:
Ding ding ding on sucking wheels behind a late prime. Last weekend it got me into the winning break by accident. I looked back a half lap after the prime and the peloton was taking their sweet time closing the gap, asked my neighbor if he wanted to go for it, and off we went.

Must not have been a Cat 4 race...from my experience, when that happens in a 4s race, the other guys just look at you like a dog trying to figure out a noise...



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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]
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last tri in 83 wrote:
Do you guys ever just get on you bike and ride for the fun of it?

Fun is riding fast and having endorphine kicks out of it. Riding slow is boring ( I don't like going for walks either, and I would not consider a 5h walk a good way to improve my running). I just get cold, hungry and bored if I ride slowly. Long rides as close to aerobic threshold as possible, and when we ride with my friends we keep 5-7 m apart, not drafting.
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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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More likely, that picture shows the peloton giving lots of room to the guy with a "triathlete" jersey, no socks, riding a TT frame (with deep section wheels for a cat4/5 crit to boot?!) Nobody wants that wheel!!
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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [Tom A.] [ In reply to ]
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>>BTW, put some socks on so you don't look like some tri-geek out doing a crit ;-)

It's the Alejandro Valverde look, and a good one at that.
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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [dongustav] [ In reply to ]
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of course you want that wheel!

that wheel will pull you along for as long as you want!

dongustav wrote:
More likely, that picture shows the peloton giving lots of room to the guy with a "triathlete" jersey, no socks, riding a TT frame (with deep section wheels for a cat4/5 crit to boot?!) Nobody wants that wheel!!



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Re: "long slow rides are a waste of time" [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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BTW...that P2K is a pretty sweet lookin' crit bike. How's that working out so far?



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