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"bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [gazman] [ In reply to ]
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Now this is interesting!
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [gazman] [ In reply to ]
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I've always thought it would be a good idea to put bikes around a city with GPS trackers well hidden in them and lock them to random poles etc. If somebody cuts the lock and steals the bike track them down and arrest them. The bikes would be random (cruiser, mtb, road bike, fixie, big, small, blue, green red, black, etc) so as time went on thieves would have no idea whether or not the bike they were stealing was "bugged". As such they would be discouraged from stealing all bikes.
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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GreenPlease wrote:
I've always thought it would be a good idea to put bikes around a city with GPS trackers well hidden in them and lock them to random poles etc. If somebody cuts the lock and steals the bike track them down and arrest them. The bikes would be random (cruiser, mtb, road bike, fixie, big, small, blue, green red, black, etc) so as time went on thieves would have no idea whether or not the bike they were stealing was "bugged". As such they would be discouraged from stealing all bikes.



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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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Would these even fit in a bike? Can they receive a GPS signal indoors and when concealed inside a bike?
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [Sausagetail] [ In reply to ]
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A GPS antenna is very small, or you could conceal it in a plastic fairing that wouldn't block signals as strongly as metal. Wouldn't work inside, but you'd be able to track the thing until it entered a building.

That said, a track-and-arrest system may not work: Some publication had a "inside bike theft" article a while ago where they embedded themselves with actual bike thieves. The ones doing most of the theft in their article had sold the bike again within an hour of stealing it, usually for cash in a big open-air market.

I guess you could nail the person buying the stolen bike for possession of stolen goods, but that doesn't _entirely_ help the problem, as the thief is still free and flush with his cash. Arresting law-abiding people for buying what to them is just a used bike wouldn't be a very popular or effective policy. It'd slightly depress used-bike prices by curtailing demand a bit but probably not catch any big-time thieves.

Edit or maybe my pessimism isn't warranted. If the cops are running the GPS program and pay close attention, looks like it's effective.

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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [Chri55] [ In reply to ]
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Chri55 wrote:
GreenPlease wrote:
I've always thought it would be a good idea to put bikes around a city with GPS trackers well hidden in them and lock them to random poles etc. If somebody cuts the lock and steals the bike track them down and arrest them. The bikes would be random (cruiser, mtb, road bike, fixie, big, small, blue, green red, black, etc) so as time went on thieves would have no idea whether or not the bike they were stealing was "bugged". As such they would be discouraged from stealing all bikes.



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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [realAB] [ In reply to ]
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realAB wrote:
http://www.nsnews.com/news/bait-bike-puts-the-brakes-on-thief-1.2119416

I like it!
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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GreenPlease wrote:
I've always thought it would be a good idea to put bikes around a city with GPS trackers well hidden in them and lock them to random poles etc. If somebody cuts the lock and steals the bike track them down and arrest them. The bikes would be random (cruiser, mtb, road bike, fixie, big, small, blue, green red, black, etc) so as time went on thieves would have no idea whether or not the bike they were stealing was "bugged". As such they would be discouraged from stealing all bikes.

That would be entrapment, and it's against the law.

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That might be the post of the year right there.
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [shivermetimbers] [ In reply to ]
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shivermetimbers wrote:
GreenPlease wrote:
I've always thought it would be a good idea to put bikes around a city with GPS trackers well hidden in them and lock them to random poles etc. If somebody cuts the lock and steals the bike track them down and arrest them. The bikes would be random (cruiser, mtb, road bike, fixie, big, small, blue, green red, black, etc) so as time went on thieves would have no idea whether or not the bike they were stealing was "bugged". As such they would be discouraged from stealing all bikes.


That would be entrapment, and it's against the law.

How on earth is it entrapment?

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In criminal law, entrapment is a practice whereby a law enforcement agent induces a person to commit a criminal offense that the person would have otherwise been unlikely to commit.

There's no undercover officer going up to suspects saying "hey there's a really nice bike on that rack down the street" or "want to buy some coke?" or "I'll pay you $50,000 to take this guy out." It's not even like the bikes would be just sitting around. They would be locked up. The thieves would have to actively cut the lock. In your world, every bike induces bike thieves. It's not the thieve's fault, all the bikes locked up to bike racks are inducing them.
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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Awesome, so you taking it to the streets? Let me know how that works out for you trying to chase down bike thieves doped up on crack, and serving citizen arrests.

"I would definitely smell her seat after a century ride"
Rappstar wrote:
That might be the post of the year right there.
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [shivermetimbers] [ In reply to ]
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Police officers would respond to the theft just like they'd respond to the theft of one of their own police cruisers.
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [shivermetimbers] [ In reply to ]
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Awesome, so you taking it to the streets? Let me know how that works out for you trying to chase down bike thieves doped up on crack, and serving citizen arrests.

Sounds like he was just addressing where you incorrectly stated that it was entrapment. No need to be all salty.
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [dzxc] [ In reply to ]
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Meh...I said what I said.

"I would definitely smell her seat after a century ride"
Rappstar wrote:
That might be the post of the year right there.
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [shivermetimbers] [ In reply to ]
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shivermetimbers wrote:
Awesome, so you taking it to the streets? Let me know how that works out for you trying to chase down bike thieves doped up on crack, and serving citizen arrests.
Bait cars have been used in Vancouver for many years and now they're using bait bikes as well.
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [shivermetimbers] [ In reply to ]
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This is no different than a prostitution sting where undercover police officers are standing at a street corner waiting for johns to come by. It's also no different than bait cars or the sting on "to catch a predator" that once ran on NBC.

shivermetimbers wrote:
GreenPlease wrote:
I've always thought it would be a good idea to put bikes around a city with GPS trackers well hidden in them and lock them to random poles etc. If somebody cuts the lock and steals the bike track them down and arrest them. The bikes would be random (cruiser, mtb, road bike, fixie, big, small, blue, green red, black, etc) so as time went on thieves would have no idea whether or not the bike they were stealing was "bugged". As such they would be discouraged from stealing all bikes.


That would be entrapment, and it's against the law.


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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [gazman] [ In reply to ]
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Watching this bike thief video will make you mad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJLDjSMqXLg
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [gazman] [ In reply to ]
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I'm waiting for Duffy and JSA [edit meant vitus] to score the MMA at the end of the video, please. Why do dudes take off their shirts before going at it? Because shirt could be used to choke or pulled over head? So I suppose if someone is pulling off their shirt, I should run up and kick them in the balls?

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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [H-] [ In reply to ]
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I'm waiting for Duffy and JSA [edit meant vitus] to score the MMA at the end of the video, please. Why do dudes take off their shirts before going at it? Because shirt could be used to choke or pulled over head? So I suppose if someone is pulling off their shirt, I should run up and kick them in the balls?

Yeah, I'd be kneeing them in the jaw while they took off their shirt.

Then stepping back, waiting for my buddy to sucker punch them in the kidney.
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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GreenPlease wrote:
I've always thought it would be a good idea to put bikes around a city with GPS trackers well hidden in them and lock them to random poles etc. If somebody cuts the lock and steals the bike track them down and arrest them. The bikes would be random (cruiser, mtb, road bike, fixie, big, small, blue, green red, black, etc) so as time went on thieves would have no idea whether or not the bike they were stealing was "bugged". As such they would be discouraged from stealing all bikes.

I seem to recall Santa Barbara PD ding this some years ago with LoJack.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [H-] [ In reply to ]
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H- wrote:
I'm waiting for Duffy and JSA [edit meant vitus] to score the MMA at the end of the video, please. Why do dudes take off their shirts before going at it? Because shirt could be used to choke or pulled over head? So I suppose if someone is pulling off their shirt, I should run up and kick them in the balls?

Looks like the guy with the red shoes (baiter) has some training. The way he put on that guillotine choke (throwing his leg over the back and hipping out to his right is something that is learned, not instinct.

The thief appeared totally untrained.

I don't think I'd bother to remove my shirt before an impromptu donnybrook. My shoulders are pretty tight so removing a tshirt takes me more time than those young studs.

Besides, I can use my shirt against you. You could use it against me if you know what you're doing but if you know what you're doing it wouldn't really matter either way.

If someone wanted to throw down with me (and all other options were not applicable) and they went to remove their shirt I'd probably shoot a double and have them mounted with their shirt still over their face.

So to answer your question I don't really know why the shirts come off. Maybe it's the universal douchebag way of communicating the desire to scrap.

One douchebag is in a "fuck you fight" with another douchebag (two dude saying fuck you to eachother) and when one douchebag takes off his shirt that's means "ok, I'm reading to start physical violence with you." If the other douchebag also removes his shirt then every douchebag watching the YouTube video will know that this was a clean fight and not a Worldstar bear down.

Or maybe they're gay.

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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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GreenPlease wrote:
I've always thought it would be a good idea to put bikes around a city with GPS trackers well hidden in them and lock them to random poles etc. If somebody cuts the lock and steals the bike track them down and arrest them. The bikes would be random (cruiser, mtb, road bike, fixie, big, small, blue, green red, black, etc) so as time went on thieves would have no idea whether or not the bike they were stealing was "bugged". As such they would be discouraged from stealing all bikes.

My bet is most thieves are drug addicts looking to sell for a quick buck to get their next fix and probably wouldn't be discouraged.
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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [gazman] [ In reply to ]
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Here's more of kind of the same, but with a twist and some funny euro racing commentary:




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Re: "bike bait" prank to catch bike thieves GOLD [zoom] [ In reply to ]
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In the case of the prostitution, entrapment would be if a polic officer walked up to someone and asked for sex in exchange for money. If the prostitute walks up to someone and offers sex in exchange for money, that's not entrapment. But the police have to initiate it for it to be entrapment.

There really is no way a bicycle could entrap someone. If the bike is sitting there and someone takes it it's theft, it doesn't matter if it's put there for the purpose of catching someone taking it.
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