"Cassette removal is easy" - Ha!

Jun 9, 11 18:37

Post #1 of 35 (7367 views)

Ok, you all convinced me it was time to replace my 11-28t cog with something tighter. I figured I'd take it in baby steps, put on an 11-26t.
I have the proper cassette removal tool, the SR-1, the adjustable wrench.
I've done this before, though it has been a while.
Review the ST thread where everyone said how easy it was. Review the Park Tools instructions+video.
Everything is set.
Apply force to remove .... and nada.
Apply every ounce of strength I have ... still nada.
Look for a pipe or something to slip over the wrenches to increase lever arm ... nada.
Apply every ounce of strength I have, suppressing vocalizations that would be inappropriate around my kids ... nada.

ARRGGGHHH!!!!

I need to rent some muscle.

(Any tricks for those of us who lack typical male upper body strength?)

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [caf0] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 18:41

Post #2 of 35 (7352 views)

um, are you sure you're twisting in the right direction? shouldn't be on THAT tight

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [caf0] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 18:42

Post #3 of 35 (7344 views)

I have the biceps of a 12 year old girl and can even take a cassette off. Just damn.

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [caf0] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 18:47

Post #4 of 35 (7324 views)

If the adjustable wrench that you are using is long enough, I am thinking you might be twisting in the wrong direction ...

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Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [fartleker] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 18:48

Post #5 of 35 (7314 views)

fartleker wrote:

I have the biceps of a 12 year old girl and can even take a cassette off. Just damn.

hahaha

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Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [caf0] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 18:49

Post #6 of 35 (7310 views)

Stop trying and get thee to a bike shop. If the old one was put on way too tight it may be difficult to remove, but shouldn't be that hard. Something sounds wrong and best to have a cpro look at it before you do some damage.

Styrrell

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Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [styrrell] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 19:17

Post #7 of 35 (7229 views)

I finally got that sucker off. Dang.

Come to think of it, I probably had stronger biceps when I was a 12yr old girl...

Ok, just needed to vent. Thanks.

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [caf0] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 19:22

Post #8 of 35 (7201 views)

i once had one get stuck so bad it took me an hour.

when that happens, a penetrating lubricant usually does the trick.spray, let it sit, the try again.

also helps to have a huge lever of a wrench =)

if you don't put it on too tight, it is easy to remove!

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Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [jackmott] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 19:32

Post #9 of 35 (7168 views)

Actually, I cannot get this Miche off

Freewheel. The disc is aramid, afraid to damage

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [caf0] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 19:33

Post #10 of 35 (7159 views)

on a road bike you don't have to put the lockring back on super tight at all, just snug it up. on the mtb or cross bike sometimes the grass winds around in there and backs it off

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [Kenney] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 19:49

Post #11 of 35 (7128 views)

I can't get my tri shorts off. Any suggestions?

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [waupaca11] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 19:56

Post #12 of 35 (7108 views)

Hey I'm serious. Thats an old 80's disc. I have removed many cassettes, this thing is stuck. The shop cannot get it off. The guy there (who I pay a beer per spoke on a build ;-) ) a wrench since the 70's cannot get it off.

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [Kenney] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 20:11

Post #13 of 35 (7065 views)

If you really really want to get it off you can remove the gears and try to dismantle the free wheel mechanism (some can be on the wheel) then you may have more access to the seam between hub and freewheels shell and can try penetrating oil or applying heat, which may loosen it. If not buy lots of Belgium beer for the mechanic and have him cut the shell off the hub with dremel. It will be a slow job, so lots of beer.

Other than that just use the gears you got.

If you do go the cut route I'll send you a couple of freewheels to replace the one you cut off, just for having the gumption to go to those lengths.

Styrrell

Styrrell

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [styrrell] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 20:20

Post #14 of 35 (7044 views)

Thanks. As of right now, the few times I use a 7 speed, I'm stuck with it. Was going to put a Campy to match with the regina chain.

Bad picture of the other side. This old disc covers the whole hub. Your right, on how it can be done. Luckily there is not much wear and I cannot ride it much.

100_0342 Wishh I could look like Wiggens on this!!

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [Kenney] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 20:24

Post #15 of 35 (7034 views)

i would enjoy trying to tweak that bike to be a bit more aero while still looking retro

maybe one of the old school aero bottles, and a switch of front end to scott 100k?

and a shamal front wheel!

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Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [jackmott] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 20:33

Post #16 of 35 (7005 views)

Actually I have an campy areo bottle. I restored it to original. Thats an original pinarello bottle for it.Thats an Ambrosia tubie (80 wolbers) with a c-record 36 hub. All c-record. ....................Could try this
http://cgi.ebay.com/...geName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [caf0] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 20:39

Post #17 of 35 (6994 views)

By the way....................................How do you like your new bike?

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [Kenney] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 20:41

Post #18 of 35 (6991 views)

mother of god that is awesome

(and I don't normally care about old bikes!)

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Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [Kenney] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 20:49

Post #19 of 35 (6972 views)

Kenney wrote:

Hey I'm serious. Thats an old 80's disc. I have removed many cassettes, this thing is stuck. The shop cannot get it off. The guy there (who I pay a beer per spoke on a build ;-) ) a wrench since the 70's cannot get it off.

Soak in penetrating oil and bring it to a machine shop. See if they can chuck up the cassette removal nut and turn the cassette off. A big lathe can apply a very controlled high torquing force that should be able to get it off. A bike shop is not really the best place for this one.

Last edited by: sand101: Jun 9, 11 20:50

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [sand101] [ In reply to ]

Jun 9, 11 20:53

Post #20 of 35 (6963 views)

Great idea. Thanks

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [Kenney] [ In reply to ]

Jun 10, 11 1:39

Post #21 of 35 (6846 views)

Kenney wrote:

Hey I'm serious. Thats an old 80's disc. I have removed many cassettes, this thing is stuck. The shop cannot get it off. The guy there (who I pay a beer per spoke on a build ;-) ) a wrench since the 70's cannot get it off.

Do this, put the cassette tool in a vise and turn the wheel. You can get a whole lot more force applied without hurting the wheel.

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [Kenney] [ In reply to ]

Jun 10, 11 2:26

Post #22 of 35 (6825 views)

You need to drill the seat post on that bad boy to save weight, cos that's what we did.... :)

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [Kenney] [ In reply to ]

Jun 10, 11 4:10

Post #23 of 35 (6755 views)

Quote:

By the way....................................How do you like your new bike?

The P3?
I've ridden it many many thousands of miles so not really new anymore, 'cept the arm pads.
I like it a lot, but...
it doesn't seem like I ride much faster on it than my road bike (with non-aero wheels and clip-on bars).
Which is sort of the point, to go faster.
I'll have to put it on a trainer (controlled environment) to verify, but on the road my power was jumping up like 25% when I came out of aero.
I don't generate enough watts to afford to give up that many...
Maybe it's just in my head, I'll have to put it on a trainer to verify.
I do like my P3 a lot.

Your bike, by the way, I love! That is very very cool!

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [caf0] [ In reply to ]

Jun 10, 11 4:42

Post #24 of 35 (6704 views)

mopac TT this coming tuesday if you want to test the theory and get some 20 minute hurt in at the same time!

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Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter

Re: "Cassette removal is easy" - Ha! [jackmott] [ In reply to ]

Jun 10, 11 4:59

Post #25 of 35 (6679 views)

Quote:

mopac TT this coming tuesday if you want to test the theory and get some 20 minute hurt in at the same time!

I've never done those, definitely should.
It always seemed a little short for my tastes...iow probably really good for me.

Thanks for the pointer on the penetrating lube.

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