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"Bicycle has never been raced"
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I am currently looking for a used road bike for my wife and as I am plowing through ads I see the same line over and over.

"Bicycle has never been raced, only used for training rides"

Stop it! What is the difference? Just let me know how many miles you have one the bike. It's all I need to know. If the bike has been used in a "race" does not change anything. Lines like the one above is a turnoff and tells me you don't know much about bikes. Rant over.




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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]
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I think its as opposed to "bike has less than 500 miles total, only 3 seasons of Cat 5 crit racing, I use my good bike for training."

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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]
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Sweet! She's ready to ride again!!! :)

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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe it's a euphemism for "I never peed on it..."


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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [Khai] [ In reply to ]
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Or like selling a 4-wheeler...."never been rolled"!!
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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [MarkyV] [ In reply to ]
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MarkyV wrote:
Sweet! She's ready to ride again!!! :)

It has been four years since she crashed and she is finally ready. Unfortunately no triathlons. Because she trashed her right solder so bad she can't swim. Oh well, I am so stoked that she is back in the saddle!



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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]
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Or almost brand new just used about 10 times!

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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]
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FrostyJ wrote:
"Bicycle has never been raced, only used for training rides"

Lines like the one above is a turnoff and tells me you don't know much about bikes. Rant over.

Perhaps it's you who doesn't know much. Listing whether a bike has been raced is pretty common practice among roadies. Newsflash - not everyone who rides a bike is a triathlete.
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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [Green Barf] [ In reply to ]
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So please tell me how the wear on a bike is different when racing versus training. I don't turn the cranks differently. I don't shift differently. I don't sprint differently. Curious to know.



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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]
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I completely agree I think its pointless to say that "it hasn't been raced". I don't give a flying f*** if it was raced as long as is was crashed.(It also makes guys selling 2009 pinarellos look like pussys because it shows that they don't race their $13,000 machine)
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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]
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I've never raced my R3 but I've rode it through hell and back, gravel roads, dirt trails, rough pavement. I figure because they ride it in Paris-Roubaix I can take it anywhere :) Point is, never raced means nothing. That's like saying a car has been "lady driven". The way my leadfooted lady drives....... :)


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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [rbuike] [ In reply to ]
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there is a little old lady in houston with a miata that is quite literally

"driven by a little old lady only on sundays"

and every single time it was raced (pretty quickly) in an autocross event on sticky race tires and probably has extreme bushing and shock wear relative to any normal car.

she had the bumper sticker too =)



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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]
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When you find one, I Jess would love to ride with her!
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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]
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FrostyJ wrote:
So please tell me how the wear on a bike is different when racing versus training. I don't turn the cranks differently. I don't shift differently. I don't sprint differently. Curious to know.

I do. I slam home gears, shift under load, and jam on the cranks out of turns in a way that I don't when I'm training. I guess I sprint the same though.
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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [AaronT] [ In reply to ]
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a crit puts way more stress on wheels than *most* peoples training due to the high speed turns

however I just so happen to live near a very twisty bike-only road where I do crit-like stress to my wheels all the time.

as such, I have found I cannot use certain light, inexpensive wheels that are popular around here....for long!



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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [jackmott] [ In reply to ]
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How many miles is too many? I have a 3 year old Felt F2 DA that I am thinking of replacing this year. It has some minor scratches as it fell over but it's "never been crashed" in a race. The thing is, this bike easily has 40,000 miles on it.


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jackmott wrote:
there is a little old lady in houston with a miata that is quite literally

"driven by a little old lady only on sundays"

and every single time it was raced (pretty quickly) in an autocross event on sticky race tires and probably has extreme bushing and shock wear relative to any normal car.

she had the bumper sticker too =)

Rad in every way.

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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [00gauge] [ In reply to ]
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no idea, could be infinite.

i hope my p3 aluminum fails some day so I can maybe get a p4 but it may never happen!

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How many miles is too many? I have a 3 year old Felt F2 DA that I am thinking of replacing this year. It has some minor scratches as it fell over but it's "never been crashed" in a race. The thing is, this bike easily has 40,000 miles on it.



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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]
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Don't know for road races, but the statement is also common on mtbikes. Racing a mtb can be really stressfull on the bike when comparing it to riding around the park.
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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]
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Eh, I would probably like to know. In most cases, "Bicycle has been raced and never crashed" means someone has taken good care of equipment. I've taken my bike into many more sketchy situations road racing than I ever would in training (yes, this means I need to alter my training). Bombing down a 40+ mph descent with 80 of your closest friends is a little different than doing it solo. Are there different physical stresses to the bike? No. But, people who are willing to bomb 40+ mph descents with 80 of their closest friends are also (hopefully) going to take excellent care of their equipment to make that situation as safe as possible. I know I do. For me, race equipment is pampered so it works properly when you really need it to.

"Bicycle has never been raced" may be a bad thing! But then again, I scored my current R3 frame from a 'has never been raced' seller and proceeded to race the crap out of it. It's been a fantastic bike.
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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]
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This is the most stupid piece of information I see. If you are racing and like to finish races then you make sure your equip is in good shape and go over your rig as opposed to the somebody who is training and sometimes let things go from session to session. My bikes have always been better maintained when racing. I can remember when racing moto-x, people selling bikes and saying "never raced". It usually meant there bike was a pile if sh*& because they were out winging it with there buddies on the weekends while all the real riders where at the races making sure there bikes were primo for results. My race bikes were always in way better shape then my practice bikes! It is just a stupid comment. In the end it just matters about how old the bike is and how well it was taken care of. PLEASE
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Re: "Bicycle has never been raced" [FrostyJ] [ In reply to ]
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I think it's a carryover from car sales where cars with sporting pretentions point out "never been raced" or "never been wrecked" Of course in car racing (even track days) the likelihood of driving it like you stole it, does affect the car while racing a bike is arguably the same as riding it for training.

Personally, I'd prefer to see "only used for racing" since people generally race a lot less than train and the bike would probably have less miles on it!

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