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darkhorsepick
Jun 10, 09 16:05
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I am a new swimmer, work with a coach 1-2 times/month, and then on my own 3x week. I come from a strong running/cycling background (18:30 5k, better at cycling) so I have a ton of leg strength. I know that I have power coming from my kick because when I do kick sets and drills, I move at a nice pace. My issue is that when I add the kick to my swim, I struggle and struggle. When I use the pull buoy I can pull endless 100 yard repeats at 1:25 pace. When I add the kick into the mix I STRUGGLE to pull out a 1:40. Is this typical, especially given that I should technically have stronger legs than arms given my background and given that I am a girl? Anyone have any idea about what's going on? I have asked my coach but am curious about other input.

BTW, my kick is technically sound, not a "runner's" kick, I fixed that already.
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mistressk
Jun 10, 09 17:03
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body position? if you pull fast (with legs supported by pull buoy) and kick fast, you may be dropping your legs and slowing yourself down..

engage the core, get your butt up, and push your face/chest down :)

cheers!

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darkhorsepick
Jun 10, 09 17:16
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thanks for the feedback, I thought that might be the issue, but it turns out that when I swim, my feet are actually too high up above the water and my legs aren't really sinking. I'm thinking it's more of a rhythm problem.
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AWARE
Jun 11, 09 11:55
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Roll your shoulders AND your hips. If your feet are too high, try lifting your head up a bit - which is the exact opposite issue that MOST triathletes and runners that swim have, for the record - that'll drop your hips a bit which SHOULD put your feet further down in the water. Pretend there's a straight rod that sticks out of your head and straight down through your feet - you should rotate on that axis as you swim and your shoulders and hips should be on the same rotation - otherwise you're right, it's a rhythm problem. You might be putting too much effort into your kick and not enough into your arms.
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GhiaGirl
Jun 11, 09 13:06
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I'm not really sure how your feet can be too high, unless you have your legs bent and your feet out of the water? Or your back arched so your hips are out of the water.

If that's the case, keep your knees straight and only bend them the SLIGHTEST to kick. Most of the kick should come from the hips.

Try to do a kick set w/o the board, face down, streamlined, and scull for breath. The kickboard will push your head/chest up and feet down to a body position different from swimming.

Or do some kicking on your back and see if you feet are dragging because your knees are bent.
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S. Pinkfontaine
Jun 13, 09 9:59
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Try working with the coach more than 1-2x/month. They know more about swimming than anyone else on this board and they have the HUGE advantage of actually being able to see your stroke.
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