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Remember the Seinfeld soupguy?
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the soup nazi?

well I have met the flight nazis - they go by the name Jet Blue. I still am in disbelief that this happened.

Rather than retype it all you can read about it here

comments and advice appreciated.

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Re: Remember the Seinfeld soupguy? [TriToy] [ In reply to ]
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w.o.w!
I have no advice only support. Fat stinky asses should have their own section of the airplane and should be REQUIRED to pay for 2 seats!
good luck to you!

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Re: Remember the Seinfeld soupguy? [TriToy] [ In reply to ]
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so whoever left the anonymous comment on my blog basically saying that due to the fact that I called a FA a flying waitress I must be at fault, at least (WO)MAN UP and don't be anonymous or don't bother. I delete anonymous stuff as I think people should own their comments.

It is fine if you think I am at fault, but even according to JetBlue's own contract of carriage they are in the wrong. At worst you can say that I was snooty and rude but that does not meet even their criteria for nontransport.

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Re: Remember the Seinfeld soupguy? [TriToy] [ In reply to ]
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Good luck with this pursuit, because you will need it:

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F. Comfort and Safety - In the following categories where refusal or

removal may be necessary for the comfort or safety of the Passenger(s)

or other passengers:

(1) Persons whose conduct is or has been known to be disorderly,

abusive, offensive, threatening, intimidating violent, or whose


clothing is lewd, obscene, or patently offensive;

and

G. The tickets of any Passenger refused passage or removed enroute

under the provisions of this Section 24 will be refunded in accordance

with Section 26 below. Such a refund shall be the sole recourse of any

Passenger refused passage or removed enroute. UNDER NO

CIRCUMSTANCES WILL CARRIER BE LIABLE TO ANY

PASSENGER OR REFUSED PASSENGER FOR ANY TYPE OF


INDIRECT, SPECIAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES.

Like balls and strikes calls in baseball, what is "disorderly, abusive, offensive", etc., is a judgment call. I suspect that judgment calls have little to no chance of success. Your defense that your buddy smelled really bad won't go very far. I would pursue a loss you had for tickets, if any, but nothing else. Do you really want to piss of an airline?

When customers choose airlines by price, expect the industry to race to the bottom. Unfortunately, you are old enough to recall the days when that was not what air travel was all about.



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Re: Remember the Seinfeld soupguy? [Old and Haggard] [ In reply to ]
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that same section also has:

section 7 states: " Persons who have an offensive odor..."

there is a big difference in what behaviour constitutes non-transport.
I plan to at least draw attention to this - it is bad enough that flying has become cattle being led to slaughter, but now if we look at someone cross-eyed it becomes a reason to kick us off????

someone has to take a stand....

and yes, I do remember when flying was different. Clearly I will NEVER fly JetGlue again

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Re: Remember the Seinfeld soupguy? [TriToy] [ In reply to ]
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I would be more likely to bring up the fact that he spilled over into your seat. You paid for the seat and you have the right to the whole thing. It's ridiculous that he didn't buy 2 seats if he didn't fit into 1!!!! I would have been pissed off too, especially if it is a long flight!
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Re: Remember the Seinfeld soupguy? [lwalsh] [ In reply to ]
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Jet Blue does not have a policy to make people buy 2 seats.....

I think only Southwest has it.

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Re: Remember the Seinfeld soupguy? [TriToy] [ In reply to ]
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I was on a flight from Vegas to Atlanta (Fatlanta) and there were so many obese people on the plane that they ran out of seatbelt extenders. Our flight was delayed about an hour because we couldn't take off until we got more seatbelts from another plane! It's only fair to make them pay for an extra seat (and extra fuel).
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Re: Remember the Seinfeld soupguy? [TriToy] [ In reply to ]
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That is terrible! At this point, my definition of a good flight is one that has the same number of take-offs and landings, but I would completely draw the line over somebody spilling over and touching me on an airline seat. I'm thin so I usually have lots of room but a smelly pax invading my space would probably make me claustrophobic.

Fortunately, I now have a life where I don't fly very much and I usually know far enough in advance that I can book an aisle seat. I'm not a lawyer, but aren't there some rules (laws) about unwanted touches? Heh. It would be great to just mention to the offender spilling over into your seat that if he doesn't stop touching you, you'll file a police report for assault charges. Then haul out your camera and start snapping. Okay, I'm dreaming. You'll have to let us know how it all turns out.
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Re: Remember the Seinfeld soupguy? [BeeHunter] [ In reply to ]
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this has me laughing. Thanks.

Update:

Unsolicited, I heard from another passenger (a patient of mine who was on the flight) who as it turns out was right across the aisle from gynormous smelly guy and me. She asked me what happened? She thought the jetBlue FAs were horribly rude to me - she said she heard me ask to move and they told me to sit then turned around and rolled their eyes. Smelly guy did reek to everyone - the guy next to her was complaining to her!

She said I seemed a bit annoyed when I was told to sit down. She saw me close my eyes and put my headphones on clearly trying to zone out.

The next thing she said was - "my friend and I saw them take your bags and we were like huh????"

NO SCENE!!!

She laughed when I told her what they said to me. She was royally pissed off!

So for all of you who thought that I must have made a scene - uh no. I really did recount things as they happened.

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Re: Remember the Seinfeld soupguy? [TriToy] [ In reply to ]
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Try toy, you are so funny, I showed this to my husband who understands your pain. He only flies first class now. When we used to fly economy, he always got stuck next to a fat obese person. My husband is thin.
If ever an airline asks me about my over weight luggage, I say add it to my body weight to match most of the passengers. I am entitled to an extra 145 pounds
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Re: Remember the Seinfeld soupguy? [TriToy] [ In reply to ]
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sorry I mean TriToy
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Re: Remember the Seinfeld soupguy? [pine] [ In reply to ]
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I have been saying for a while, with all the new baggage charges, that we should all be weighed with our bags and then the charge would be determined. I know I would never be charged again!!!


Oh and to anonymous who commented in my blog again, and was surprised that I deleted her/his post - your excuse of no account on ST or blogs is rather lame - they are FREE accounts. Saying my deleting your anonymous posts means my patient is not unbiased is incredibly laughable - as opposed to your judgment - you WHO HAS NEVER MET ME!!!! have fun playing with yourself - it's called mental masturbation.

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