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Gerald Stanley Decision Stands...
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The verdict that triggered much virtue signalling is finished The crown prosecutors have found no errors in law. While I am confused how Mr. Stanley wasn't found guilty of manslaughter, the second degree murder charge was IMO overreach by the crown in an attempt to achieve the lesser charge.
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Re: Gerald Stanley Decision Stands... [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]
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I take it this is important news in Saskatchewan?

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Guffaw wrote:
I take it this is important news in Saskatchewan?

Normally something like this shouldn't be newsworthy but PM Stupid Selfie Socks and the Attorney General weighed in on the case and pissed and moaned about the the 'white guy' not being found guilty.
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Re: Gerald Stanley Decision Stands... [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]
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racin_rusty wrote:
The verdict that triggered much virtue signalling is finished The crown prosecutors have found no errors in law. While I am confused how Mr. Stanley wasn't found guilty of manslaughter, the second degree murder charge was IMO overreach by the crown in an attempt to achieve the lesser charge.

I thought that would be the outcome too. However, I think Defence claimed that since the slide on the pistol locked back and Stanley dropped the mag, he was safe in believing that the firearm was not capable of firing. Crown was not able to disprove that claim. Therefore, there really was no intention or negligence involved which would be required for that conviction.

I heard about a theory of how the fatal round was actually discharged, not sure if it is actually possible or not. The theory is that when he pulled the trigger to fire the last round, the primer fired but not all the powder due to it being old cheap ammo. This pushed the round out of the cartridge but not out of the barrel, and caused the action to kick back partially but not enough to eject the cartridge (causing the cartridge to jam in the ejection port). The powder smouldered for a bit, and then as he reached into the vehicle (seeing that the slide looked to be locked back), the smouldering powder lit off, pushing the bullet out of the barrel and into the victims head, and this also caused the swelling on the cartridge that has otherwise been unable to be explained.

And having read the judges instructions to the jury, I was pretty sure that there were no errors in law either. The judge did an amazing job of explaining the process and everything else. I think at the end of the day, Crown simply got out-lawyered by Defence (with the assistance of a somewhat lacking investigation by the local Mounties).

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Re: Gerald Stanley Decision Stands... [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]
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I agree that being found guilty of manslaughter would have been appropriate in this case. Mr. Stanley is responsible for another person's death. However, he hired a good lawyer and got the verdict he and his family wanted. What bothers me is that in some minds, the simple fact that he is white, and the victim is not, was the only reason he should have been found guilty of second degree murder. The victim and his friends were not acting nobly by any stretch, and if they hadn't been trying to steal a vehicle this shit would never have gone down the way it did.

Now with a farmer in southern Alberta charged with offences relating to defending his rural property, it will be interesting to see how that case plays out. At least no one was killed in this instance.
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Re: Gerald Stanley Decision Stands... [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]
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racin_rusty wrote:
The verdict that triggered much virtue signalling is finished The crown prosecutors have found no errors in law. While I am confused how Mr. Stanley wasn't found guilty of manslaughter, the second degree murder charge was IMO overreach by the crown in an attempt to achieve the lesser charge.

The law is racist.
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