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Re: Wove saddles [ericlambi] [ In reply to ]
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milesthedog wrote:

Joe Skipper on Wove V8 saddle:
https://www.instagram.com/...hid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


What gadget has Joe Skipper used there to get his BTS angle more upright? Looks like a modified Profile Design RMP or RM 10, but it’s not obvious to me how you could mod those for such a clean attachment.


He and Harry from Evolve doctored an RML, RM 10 or 21 mount with our hardware.

Most pros played with keeping the bottle more upright, but are going to the default more flat/aero bottle position our V8 offers and using our retention loop.

See Rudy’s, West’s and Sam’s most recent set ups on instagram. The retention loop keeps bottles as large as 1,000ml safe and secure over the roughest of roads and bumps.

Rudy von Berg: https://www.instagram.com/...MWE2NWdhY3Q0M2ZubQ==

Jason West: https://www.instagram.com/...MWhhZ3Z1NDYxbGZpZQ==

Sam Long: https://www.instagram.com/...MTI5dGE5YTN5bWxyNA==

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Re: Wove saddles [milesthedog] [ In reply to ]
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Chiming into this thread to say I tried out several saddles for my new TT fit and the Wove was FAR AND AWAY the best saddle, for me at least. I’ve now spent about 20-30 hours on it over a few weeks (riding in a TT position for the first time ever) and it’s been great.

Perhaps even better than the saddle is the individual customer service and the feel like you are interacting with real humans who really care and know their stuff.

Very vey glad to use this saddle
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Re: Wove saddles [milesthedog] [ In reply to ]
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Review and podcast over on Escape Collective. Has been a lot of fun going back-and-forth with Ronan on bike fits for a couple of years now, and this article and podcast are the result of that:

https://escapecollective.com/...think-about-saddles/

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Re: Wove saddles [milesthedog] [ In reply to ]
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milesthedog wrote:
ericlambi wrote:
milesthedog wrote:

Joe Skipper on Wove V8 saddle:
https://www.instagram.com/...hid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


What gadget has Joe Skipper used there to get his BTS angle more upright? Looks like a modified Profile Design RMP or RM 10, but it’s not obvious to me how you could mod those for such a clean attachment.


He and Harry from Evolve doctored an RML, RM 10 or 21 mount with our hardware.

Most pros played with keeping the bottle more upright, but are going to the default more flat/aero bottle position our V8 offers and using our retention loop.

See Rudy’s, West’s and Sam’s most recent set ups on instagram. The retention loop keeps bottles as large as 1,000ml safe and secure over the roughest of roads and bumps.

Rudy von Berg: https://www.instagram.com/...MWE2NWdhY3Q0M2ZubQ==

Jason West: https://www.instagram.com/...MWhhZ3Z1NDYxbGZpZQ==

Sam Long: https://www.instagram.com/...MTI5dGE5YTN5bWxyNA==

I have Wove saddle and I love it but i need to have 2 bottles behind it. how can we solve it? i cannot use the flat attach because i am not able to reach it.
i need something more straight, on the sides, like Wing from Xlab but it doesnt work because the rails are too far for the Wing

anybody found a solution?
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Re: Wove saddles [Plissken74] [ In reply to ]
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Plissken74 wrote:
milesthedog wrote:
ericlambi wrote:
milesthedog wrote:

Joe Skipper on Wove V8 saddle:
https://www.instagram.com/...hid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


What gadget has Joe Skipper used there to get his BTS angle more upright? Looks like a modified Profile Design RMP or RM 10, but it’s not obvious to me how you could mod those for such a clean attachment.


He and Harry from Evolve doctored an RML, RM 10 or 21 mount with our hardware.

Most pros played with keeping the bottle more upright, but are going to the default more flat/aero bottle position our V8 offers and using our retention loop.

See Rudy’s, West’s and Sam’s most recent set ups on instagram. The retention loop keeps bottles as large as 1,000ml safe and secure over the roughest of roads and bumps.

Rudy von Berg: https://www.instagram.com/...MWE2NWdhY3Q0M2ZubQ==

Jason West: https://www.instagram.com/...MWhhZ3Z1NDYxbGZpZQ==

Sam Long: https://www.instagram.com/...MTI5dGE5YTN5bWxyNA==


I have Wove saddle and I love it but i need to have 2 bottles behind it. how can we solve it? i cannot use the flat attach because i am not able to reach it.
i need something more straight, on the sides, like Wing from Xlab but it doesnt work because the rails are too far for the Wing

anybody found a solution?


I hear you that using the Wolftooth B-Rad extender with the Wolftooth B-Rad double bottle mount, while lower profile, would make the reach too far,
you can alternatively use an Ice Bottle cage riser with those b-rad double bottle mounts to angle the bottle and keep the reach shorter.

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Re: Wove saddles [milesthedog] [ In reply to ]
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Hey Miles, I saw your early adopter V8 TT delivery is quoting August 2024. Is that due to batch manufacturing? Or do you have them available to ship but just have that warning there?

Ideally I'd ship to a US address while I'm there on vacation end of April. Import fees to Canada are a pain, and double if I have to return.

Thanks.
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Re: Wove saddles [canadianreaper7] [ In reply to ]
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canadianreaper7 wrote:
Hey Miles, I saw your early adopter V8 TT delivery is quoting August 2024. Is that due to batch manufacturing? Or do you have them available to ship but just have that warning there?

Ideally I'd ship to a US address while I'm there on vacation end of April. Import fees to Canada are a pain, and double if I have to return.

Thanks.

Hi there, this current V8 is available immediately: https://wovebike.com/v8saddle

The early adopter saddles are with a new manufacturer for larger production quantities that we are in the process of getting up and going, with a focus on our Mags saddle first. We are offering those at significant discounts for the purpose of bringing cash in the door to help us find this manufacturing cost. Thank you!

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Re: Wove saddles [milesthedog] [ In reply to ]
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milesthedog wrote:
canadianreaper7 wrote:
Hey Miles, I saw your early adopter V8 TT delivery is quoting August 2024. Is that due to batch manufacturing? Or do you have them available to ship but just have that warning there?

Ideally I'd ship to a US address while I'm there on vacation end of April. Import fees to Canada are a pain, and double if I have to return.

Thanks.


Hi there, this current V8 is available immediately: https://wovebike.com/v8saddle

The early adopter saddles are with a new manufacturer for larger production quantities that we are in the process of getting up and going, with a focus on our Mags saddle first. We are offering those at significant discounts for the purpose of bringing cash in the door to help us find this manufacturing cost. Thank you!

Are you still expecting to deliver early adopter Mags saddles in May?
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Re: Wove saddles [Bdaghisallo] [ In reply to ]
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Bdaghisallo wrote:
milesthedog wrote:
canadianreaper7 wrote:
Hey Miles, I saw your early adopter V8 TT delivery is quoting August 2024. Is that due to batch manufacturing? Or do you have them available to ship but just have that warning there?

Ideally I'd ship to a US address while I'm there on vacation end of April. Import fees to Canada are a pain, and double if I have to return.

Thanks.


Hi there, this current V8 is available immediately: https://wovebike.com/v8saddle

The early adopter saddles are with a new manufacturer for larger production quantities that we are in the process of getting up and going, with a focus on our Mags saddle first. We are offering those at significant discounts for the purpose of bringing cash in the door to help us find this manufacturing cost. Thank you!

Are you still expecting to deliver early adopter Mags saddles in May?

As of today, we are on track.

wovebike.com | Wove on instagram
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Re: Wove saddles [milesthedog] [ In reply to ]
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milesthedog wrote:
Bdaghisallo wrote:
milesthedog wrote:
canadianreaper7 wrote:
Hey Miles, I saw your early adopter V8 TT delivery is quoting August 2024. Is that due to batch manufacturing? Or do you have them available to ship but just have that warning there?

Ideally I'd ship to a US address while I'm there on vacation end of April. Import fees to Canada are a pain, and double if I have to return.

Thanks.


Hi there, this current V8 is available immediately: https://wovebike.com/v8saddle

The early adopter saddles are with a new manufacturer for larger production quantities that we are in the process of getting up and going, with a focus on our Mags saddle first. We are offering those at significant discounts for the purpose of bringing cash in the door to help us find this manufacturing cost. Thank you!


Are you still expecting to deliver early adopter Mags saddles in May?


As of today, we are on track.

Thanks for the quick reply.
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Re: Wove saddles officially launched and for sale [RowToTri] [ In reply to ]
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Hey Ed,

We’re on similar bikes & saddle setup. I’m currently testing a V8 now.

On average, how much more did you have to lift the seat post? How about saddle tilt? My old dash was tilted around 3°. Kept the same for the wove & I felt like I was sliding off. Thanks.
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Re: Wove saddles officially launched and for sale [TriZen] [ In reply to ]
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TriZen wrote:
Hey Ed,

We’re on similar bikes & saddle setup. I’m currently testing a V8 now.

On average, how much more did you have to lift the seat post? How about saddle tilt? My old dash was tilted around 3°. Kept the same for the wove & I felt like I was sliding off. Thanks.

Saddle height: you can measure top of saddle to bb for both to keep it the same.

As for sliding, the V8 is uber-grippy, so I'd be curious to see your fit. I'll PM you my number to send a video by whatsapp for quick feedback, if that works for you.

Nick

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Re: Wove saddles officially launched and for sale [TriZen] [ In reply to ]
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I can't remember exactly but maybe a few mm. Just keep the top of the part of the saddle you're in contact with the same distance from the bottom bracket as before.

I think I'm nose down about 1.5 degrees. Like Nick says, I find the saddle really grippy, I couldn't imagine feeling like I was slipping off, even if I went really far nose down.

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Re: Wove saddles officially launched and for sale [TriZen] [ In reply to ]
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TriZen wrote:
Hey Ed,

We’re on similar bikes & saddle setup. I’m currently testing a V8 now.

On average, how much more did you have to lift the seat post? How about saddle tilt? My old dash was tilted around 3°. Kept the same for the wove & I felt like I was sliding off. Thanks.

Adding my 2 cents since I am a new user of Wove as of a few weeks ago. I'm down about 3-4 degree and raised the saddle about 4 mm so far, but slide the saddle back about 5 mm from original installation. I'm still playing with the height/tilt stuff. My inclination is to actually tilt it back up about 1 degree as it's a bit too tilted downward to be secure feeling on long rides or sitting up. So...1 (maybe 1.5 mm degree up, and then raise the saddle yet another 1 mm).

I can't say it has any of the back of the leg "bumping"/irritation I've felt with the Dash due to the short nose--on the hamstring (which was about level mounted, not tilted down at all)...so that is a relief. The longer Wove nosed saddle just seems to work--can't say exactly why--it's like getting in a car with more leg room. The only "con" I have really found so far is taking out/putting in the water bottle on the seat cage, it's just is not working out too well...reaching far back (instead of DOWN just past the back of seat & partial bottle length to line it up, I have to pretty much stop pedaling and turn & look...if you drop it in a race you're screwed and have to turn around again. I'm used to a BTA and a downtube bottle & it's worked out excellent despite the downtube bottle not being the most aero. Can't say I'm any better at lining it up than day 1--I'll give it more time though...it's a learning process (or I'm just that uncoordinated--probably more likely than anything...)
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Re: Wove saddles officially launched and for sale [Rocky M] [ In reply to ]
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Rocky M wrote:
TriZen wrote:
Hey Ed,

We’re on similar bikes & saddle setup. I’m currently testing a V8 now.

On average, how much more did you have to lift the seat post? How about saddle tilt? My old dash was tilted around 3°. Kept the same for the wove & I felt like I was sliding off. Thanks.


The only "con" I have really found so far is taking out/putting in the water bottle on the seat cage, it's just is not working out too well...reaching far back (instead of DOWN just past the back of seat & partial bottle length to line it up, I have to pretty much stop pedaling and turn & look...if you drop it in a race you're screwed and have to turn around again. I'm used to a BTA and a downtube bottle & it's worked out excellent despite the downtube bottle not being the most aero. Can't say I'm any better at lining it up than day 1--I'll give it more time though...it's a learning process (or I'm just that uncoordinated--probably more likely than anything...)


You can use this bracket to angle the BTS bottle cage to be more upright: https://bentupcycles.com/...ce-bottle-cage-riser

In general and not just Kevin: I am available to give quick feedback on fit, because many saddle issues are fit issues.

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Re: Wove saddles officially launched and for sale [Rocky M] [ In reply to ]
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I think I’m getting the hang of it better. I’m still playing around with tilt, height, fore/aft.
The main difference for me vs the Dash is how they’re both shaped differently. From a side profile, the Dash slopes down a bit, so that same angle on the Wove gave me that feeling like I’m falling forward (not necessarily sliding since it’s very grippy. I’ve got tilted it up .5-1°.

I was very pleased to get a 5-hr trainer ride done on my 2nd use of the saddle with little to minimal discomfort.

That behind-the-saddle bottle is one I need to experiment on. Just like you, I want it angled up a bit. I also intend to stack 2 bottles since IM has banned the bottle down the kit. That for me was a necessity to carry nutrition than for aero purposes.
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Re: Wove saddles officially launched and for sale [TriZen] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe on the next iteration/gen saddle V8 can have a lower mount hole that is closer to the person's body, by about 1/2 inch. The bottle is going to tilt upwards slightly--enough to ease bottle entry & still is shielded by the person's butt. Just a suggestion--aerodynamically I highly doubt there would be any difference in drag since it's already behind the butt...
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Re: Wove saddles officially launched and for sale [TriZen] [ In reply to ]
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TriZen wrote:
I think I’m getting the hang of it better. I’m still playing around with tilt, height, fore/aft.
The main difference for me vs the Dash is how they’re both shaped differently. From a side profile, the Dash slopes down a bit, so that same angle on the Wove gave me that feeling like I’m falling forward (not necessarily sliding since it’s very grippy. I’ve got tilted it up .5-1°.

I was very pleased to get a 5-hr trainer ride done on my 2nd use of the saddle with little to minimal discomfort.

That behind-the-saddle bottle is one I need to experiment on. Just like you, I want it angled up a bit. I also intend to stack 2 bottles since IM has banned the bottle down the kit. That for me was a necessity to carry nutrition than for aero purposes.


Great to hear on adjusting to the saddle.

As for the more horizontal cage and re: Kevin's suggestion above, we don't plan to change the angle with all of our pro athletes and over 200 amateurs are A OK with the current more horizontal, aerodynamic position (+5 degree tilt of bottle).

That said, consider the bracket I linked to above to change the angle if that's truly what you need. https://bentupcycles.com/...ce-bottle-cage-riser

For two bottles, you can use the above bracket with these Wolftooth double bottle adaptors for a super secure and light double bottle set up: https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/...-bottle-cage-adapter

And, for two bottles at the more horizontal position, you can use this Wolftooth bracket to mount the double bottle adaptors to: https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/...and-accessory-device

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