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Messi as a u8 or u9
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https://twitter.com/.../1559973977023336448

The most telling part of this for me is seeing him at :55 face down a keeper 1 v 1 and drop the pass to his wing for the easy finish. That kind of vision and unselfishness is rarely seen at that age.

What a talent. If God ever kissed anything, it was Messi's left foot.
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [Tri2gohard] [ In reply to ]
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His winger was offside.
As a long time rugby player, soccer still annoys me. Nice to see he celebrates his goals like a jerk at 7 or 8 years old.

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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [Tri2gohard] [ In reply to ]
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It's took a very keen eye to see, but some of us discerning soccer connoisseurs could tell that kid had potential. [/pink]
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [SH] [ In reply to ]
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It's took a very keen eye to see, but some of us discerning soccer connoisseurs could tell that kid had potential.

I think most pro soccer players could have videos of them destroying their peers at early ages. Same with most pro-guards/wings in the NBA.
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [sonofdad] [ In reply to ]
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sonofdad wrote:
His winger was offside.
As a long time rugby player, soccer still annoys me. Nice to see he celebrates his goals like a jerk at 7 or 8 years old.

Do they enforce offsides in kids' games? That seems like it would happen almost every trip down and would take a lot of teaching to get kids to figure it out.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [sonofdad] [ In reply to ]
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sonofdad wrote:
Nice to see he celebrates his goals like a jerk at 7 or 8 years old.

Don't watch/follow bike racing much eh? Wheelies, supermans, aloha arm waves, shushes.

I always see these anti celebration comments and just think how fun someone must be to be around. If we're talking full on choreographed NFL touchdown campfire or bowling pin prank celebrations........sure. But c'mon.
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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j p o wrote:
Do they enforce offsides in kids' games? That seems like it would happen almost every trip down and would take a lot of teaching to get kids to figure it out.

Yes they do. Nowadays, at this age, there is a specific line on the field called a buildout line, between the midline and the 18. Offside can only occur beyond that line.

Kids can actuallly learn this pretty quickly if it is taught to them and the earlier the better. Both my kids are center halves, and I can't tell you how many times I've seen them throw up a hand while playing to indicate offside. I go back to the video and I can't remember a time they weren't right. It's freaky.
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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j p o wrote:
sonofdad wrote:
His winger was offside.
As a long time rugby player, soccer still annoys me. Nice to see he celebrates his goals like a jerk at 7 or 8 years old.


Do they enforce offsides in kids' games? That seems like it would happen almost every trip down and would take a lot of teaching to get kids to figure it out.

I don't remember when it started with my kids but I don't think it was until much later, maybe around age 11 or 12?
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [Tri2gohard] [ In reply to ]
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That second passage of play when he takes the ball down out of the air is pure quality. Sure lots of little kids can dribble well at that age but I doubt many have a touch like that.
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [burnthesheep] [ In reply to ]
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burnthesheep wrote:
sonofdad wrote:
Nice to see he celebrates his goals like a jerk at 7 or 8 years old.


Don't watch/follow bike racing much eh? Wheelies, supermans, aloha arm waves, shushes.

I always see these anti celebration comments and just think how fun someone must be to be around. If we're talking full on choreographed NFL touchdown campfire or bowling pin prank celebrations........sure. But c'mon.

I'm moderately fun to be around, just not when it comes to soccer.
Maybe it is different if everyone is a professional, but I could ask the same question of a kid who is miles above his peers, and makes a big deal of rubbing it in.

"I keep hoping for you to use your superior intellect to be less insufferable. Sadly, you continue to disappoint." - gofigure
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [ThisIsIt] [ In reply to ]
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ThisIsIt wrote:
That second passage of play when he takes the ball down out of the air is pure quality. Sure lots of little kids can dribble well at that age but I doubt many have a touch like that.


Sublime. Looks like Ronaldinho here:

https://twitter.com/.../1559947916084711427

It's one thing to see kids dominate because of advanced size, speed or strength. This is a different matter.
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [sonofdad] [ In reply to ]
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sonofdad wrote:
burnthesheep wrote:
sonofdad wrote:
Nice to see he celebrates his goals like a jerk at 7 or 8 years old.


Don't watch/follow bike racing much eh? Wheelies, supermans, aloha arm waves, shushes.

I always see these anti celebration comments and just think how fun someone must be to be around. If we're talking full on choreographed NFL touchdown campfire or bowling pin prank celebrations........sure. But c'mon.


I'm moderately fun to be around, just not when it comes to soccer.
Maybe it is different if everyone is a professional, but I could ask the same question of a kid who is miles above his peers, and makes a big deal of rubbing it in.

That doesn't mean they're developmentally miles above their peers, it's a ball sport. Not savant chess league. The game is being played by an immature kid around other immature kids.

They're also likely making fart jokes on the sidelines and picking their noses.

A child being happy they did something cool?
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [Tri2gohard] [ In reply to ]
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Sublime. Looks like Ronaldinho here:

https://twitter.com/.../1559947916084711427

It's one thing to see kids dominate because of advanced size, speed or strength. This is a different matter.


I had to watch this video around 5 times to see how he moved the ball through that dudes legs. I am still not sure I understand what he does to move his ankle like that. I guess its push the ball with the outside of the foot. Let it get in front, and cut it back with inside.

Regarding the kids celebrating. In games where my kid is dominating. I let them get in one celebration, and then act like they have been there. If this is a close game, then sure have it.
Last edited by: sosayusall: Aug 18, 22 12:47
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [burnthesheep] [ In reply to ]
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burnthesheep wrote:
sonofdad wrote:
burnthesheep wrote:
sonofdad wrote:
Nice to see he celebrates his goals like a jerk at 7 or 8 years old.


Don't watch/follow bike racing much eh? Wheelies, supermans, aloha arm waves, shushes.

I always see these anti celebration comments and just think how fun someone must be to be around. If we're talking full on choreographed NFL touchdown campfire or bowling pin prank celebrations........sure. But c'mon.


I'm moderately fun to be around, just not when it comes to soccer.
Maybe it is different if everyone is a professional, but I could ask the same question of a kid who is miles above his peers, and makes a big deal of rubbing it in.


That doesn't mean they're developmentally miles above their peers, it's a ball sport. Not savant chess league. The game is being played by an immature kid around other immature kids.

They're also likely making fart jokes on the sidelines and picking their noses.

A child being happy they did something cool?

Not to mention emulating what they see on TV. Scoring a goal in soccer is relatively rare, so I think that accounts for the big celebrations. It seems like it's almost never taken as rubbing it in to the opponent unless it's fairly obvious you're trying to antagonize them or their fans.
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [sosayusall] [ In reply to ]
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It's called an elastico.

At full speed it is a ridiculous and potentially embarrassing change of direction.
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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Offside is enforced in U10 and older.
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [Tri2gohard] [ In reply to ]
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Tri2gohard wrote:
ThisIsIt wrote:
That second passage of play when he takes the ball down out of the air is pure quality. Sure lots of little kids can dribble well at that age but I doubt many have a touch like that.


Sublime. Looks like Ronaldinho here:

https://twitter.com/.../1559947916084711427

It's one thing to see kids dominate because of advanced size, speed or strength. This is a different matter.

Dinho Gaucho is and always will be my favorite footballer. There was something unreal about watching him. The pure joy on his face I think is what always resonated with me. On top of his otherworldly talent.

This is a great clip overlaying footage of Ronaldinho as a kid with him as an adult. I would watch these Joga Bonito clips for hours on repeat.

Also incredible to see the greats play as youths…two yutes?

https://m.youtube.com/...amp;feature=emb_logo
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Re: Messi as a u8 or u9 [Tri2gohard] [ In reply to ]
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Bad goaltending. LOL. He didn't cut down the angle very well. I was goalie for my town's travel team at that age.

At that age I was scoring up to 9 goals a game in house league hockey. I could basically deke out a whole team. However if I was in travel hockey I likely would have been quite ordinary I think,. No way to know as my parents were not letting me into travel hockey.

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