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Re: Jan 6 June Hearings Thread [WannaB] [ In reply to ]
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RINO Rick_pcfl wrote:
I am just thinking out loud here....

Trump is the kind of person who doesn't like to be told that they can't do something. He seems like the petulant child who will do something just because he was told that he couldn't do it. I imagine that they understand that.

I am wondering if they are publicizing these things because they know that it will result in him calling more witnesses with the mindset of "they can't tell me what to do". The more witnesses he calls, the more likely he is to get recorded or say something that is clearly illegal.


YOU'RE GOD DAMN RIGHT I ORDERED THE CODE RED


And how did Trump feel when Cheney told America that the witness didn’t take his call? Ha ha! That made me laugh.
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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [kiki] [ In reply to ]
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kiki wrote:
sphere wrote:
Worst Diet Dr. Pepper commercial ever.


dominance move -- 'you all can wait til i swallow this half can of diet dr pepper'

I did enjoy Patsy B. "WHO are YOU ???"

I haven't really listened to her talk before, but she seems to be a vile human being. I can see why she would gravitate towards trump and vice versa.
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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [sosayusall] [ In reply to ]
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I don’t think their efforts are going to stop post-Trump.

They just thought that with control of state legislatures they could overturn the election via their own hand-picked electors, but they found that the law wasn’t sufficiently on their side and Pence/Barr et al didn’t play along. That’s why they’re now changing local election laws. So that next time they will have legal cover to steal the election. They’ll probably need a few hand-picked judges too.

They are not going to stop until the party is held accountable. there has been ZERO pushback by any republican voters against any of the congress people who knowingly pushed the false election conspiracies. We have people here who will time and time again say "bill clintons biggest issue is that he lied to people. I dont care he got a BJ. I care that we could no longer trust him."

How many of the current GOP members actively knew about these schemes and megaphones them? Half? How many current GOP voters care about this? 2%?

The “how many” question is the right one… I’m my model I have zoomed by orders of magnitude from 1k to 10k to 100k and now I’m seriously pondering 1M people as accessories.

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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [RINO Rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]
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RINO Rick_pcfl wrote:
I am just thinking out loud here....

Trump is the kind of person who doesn't like to be told that they can't do something. He seems like the petulant child who will do something just because he was told that he couldn't do it. I imagine that they understand that.

I am wondering if they are publicizing these things because they know that it will result in him calling more witnesses with the mindset of "they can't tell me what to do". The more witnesses he calls, the more likely he is to get recorded or say something that is clearly illegal.

The thing you’re talking about is “reflexive control” and if you’re right, we’ve finally learned something from the Russians after 20 years of war.

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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [kiki] [ In reply to ]
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chaparral wrote:
when everyone in your administration wants to find someone to calm the president down

probably inconsequential in the big picture, but this stuck --

Julie Radford testifies that Ivanka attended the rally despite previous intentions not to in order to calm her father down after his call with Pence. Ivanka flat out denies. Kinda weird.

Why did the committee include this? It adds to the picture of Trump on a tear but calling the VP a p*ssy does that pretty well already.

Ivanka and Jared are major dangerous criminals.

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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:
sphere wrote:
Clarifying:

Rep Cheney says Trump tried to call a committee witness. Witness didn’t take the call. Witness called lawyer Instead. Committee has submitted that info to Dept of Justice.

Will we hear directly from this witness?

The wannabe mob boss thinks he can witness tamper. Orange jumpsuit time!

He can share a cell with Matt Gaetz and Jim Jordan.

With those three shitbirds that would be the rapiest cell in the whole prison.
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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:
ericMPro wrote:
jmh wrote:
Stone and Flynn connected to the Oath Keepers, Proud Boys and the III%er's

All of the ass clowns with membership in those groups should be tried as traitors.

And the members of the Sedition Caucus who attended that meeting should be ousted from Congress.

Jim Jordan
Matt Gaetz
Paul Gosar
Andy Biggs
Brian Babin
Andy Harris
Louie Gohmert
Jody Hice
Scott Perry
Congresswoman-Elect Marjorie Taylor Greene


BTW, your post is also indicative of something that should smack us all in the face: they did it before, they’ll do it again, they didn’t think they’d get in trouble let alone get caught. All right there in the open.

That’s the scariest thing.

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That's why they should be ousted from Congress. I would argue by their attendance at that meeting and their vote in Congress on Jan 6th, they participated in sedition and betrayed their oaths of office.

Ousted from office should be a no brainer. I’m beginning to think they should be offered a cigarette and a blindfold.
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So is this worth watching or should I just watch the Tour tonight? I found the Hutchinson testimony pretty interesting. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [chriskal] [ In reply to ]
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chriskal wrote:
jmh wrote:
ericMPro wrote:
jmh wrote:
Stone and Flynn connected to the Oath Keepers, Proud Boys and the III%er's

All of the ass clowns with membership in those groups should be tried as traitors.

And the members of the Sedition Caucus who attended that meeting should be ousted from Congress.

Jim Jordan
Matt Gaetz
Paul Gosar
Andy Biggs
Brian Babin
Andy Harris
Louie Gohmert
Jody Hice
Scott Perry
Congresswoman-Elect Marjorie Taylor Greene


BTW, your post is also indicative of something that should smack us all in the face: they did it before, they’ll do it again, they didn’t think they’d get in trouble let alone get caught. All right there in the open.

That’s the scariest thing.

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That's why they should be ousted from Congress. I would argue by their attendance at that meeting and their vote in Congress on Jan 6th, they participated in sedition and betrayed their oaths of office.


Ousted from office should be a no brainer. I’m beginning to think they should be offered a cigarette and a blindfold.

I have low expectations for anyone being held accountable for their actions.

Suffer Well.
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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [BigDig] [ In reply to ]
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Mother fucker!!!

https://consequence.net/...h-committee-hearing/

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Descendents React to Ex-Oath Keeper Spokesperson Wearing Band’s Shirt to January 6th Committee Hearing
"We completely disavow groups like the Oath Keepers and in no way condone their hateful ideology"

In a related tweet

https://twitter.com/.../1546940680051752962

"Jamie Raskin promoted a Mission of Burma show on Harvard campus my freshman year, 1981. It’s possible these are the only two in the room who know the Descendents"

Ironically (or perhaps, tragically) Mission of Burma is well known for their song "That's When I Reach For My Revolver"

I did a show with them at UPenn that same year, allegedly

"Isn't RandMart the old punk rock dude who had the crazy ex? Then this post checks out"
I've learned from my mistakes, and I'm sure I could repeat them, exactly
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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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Just a reminder that people who voted for this shit bird are deplorable.

And they’d vote for him again, given the chance.

“His policies”. Fucking bullshit.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [WannaB] [ In reply to ]
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WannaB wrote:
RINO Rick_pcfl wrote:
I am just thinking out loud here....


Trump is the kind of person who doesn't like to be told that they can't do something. He seems like the petulant child who will do something just because he was told that he couldn't do it. I imagine that they understand that.

I am wondering if they are publicizing these things because they know that it will result in him calling more witnesses with the mindset of "they can't tell me what to do". The more witnesses he calls, the more likely he is to get recorded or say something that is clearly illegal.


YOU'RE GOD DAMN RIGHT I ORDERED THE CODE RED


And he had Christopher Miller, the Acting Secretary of the Army and a trump cult fuckwit, significantly limit the options the DC National Guard had to deal with an insurrection two days prior.



Suffer Well.
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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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wow.

on the bright side, somebody [Flynn?] left a trail of footprints, as well as heads'-up-for-next-time red flags.
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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:


And he had Christopher Miller, the Acting Secretary of the Army and a trump cult fuckwit, significantly limit the options the DC National Guard had to deal with an insurrection two days prior.


I am not defending any decisions made by trumpists for that day, but in an attempt to be objective...

While looking at information so that I could respond to people who say that Pelosi refused help from the NG, I found where the mayor of DC had requested that the NG be available. She had put some conditions on their presence in DC. It seems that she had done so as a result of trump's walk through Lafayette Square.

The list in your memo looks like it was written to accommodate her request.

. https://www.newsweek.com/...uard-unarmed-1661320
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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [RINO Rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]
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RINO Rick_pcfl wrote:


jmh wrote:


And he had Christopher Miller, the Acting Secretary of the Army and a trump cult fuckwit, significantly limit the options the DC National Guard had to deal with an insurrection two days prior.


I am not defending any decisions made by trumpists for that day, but in an attempt to be objective...

While looking at information so that I could respond to people who say that Pelosi refused help from the NG, I found where the mayor of DC had requested that the NG be available. She had put some conditions on their presence in DC. It seems that she had done so as a result of trump's walk through Lafayette Square.

The list in your memo looks like it was written to accommodate her request.

. https://www.newsweek.com/...uard-unarmed-1661320

I can see that interpretation in the understanding of the day at the end of 2021 when that article was written.

We now know more since the hearings started.

And as that article points out, the DCNG is under control of the President with the Secy of Army. POTUS and those in his circle (Stone/Flynn and, I assume given his pedigree, Secy Miller) knew that there were going to be armed insurrectionists that weren't there to harm trump on Jan 6th.

When had trump or his administration previously demonstrated that they listened to any concerns or requests of the DC Mayor?

No to go full Eric, I would suggest that perhaps they used her request as cover for their real reasons to prevent/limit the DCNG from being ready and able to respond to the insurrection.

Suffer Well.
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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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It’s also generally insane that Nancy pelosi should be to blame for not having more cops to defend against the president sending armed militia to attack the capitol.
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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [sosayusall] [ In reply to ]
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It’s also generally insane that Nancy pelosi should be to blame for not having more cops to defend against the president sending armed militia to attack the capitol.

I see it in Yahoo comment section ALL OF THE TIME. So, they blame Pelosi (who had nothing to do with it) and don't blame the guy who sent them there.

Honestly, I think that most of them know exactly what Jan 6 was, and wish that it had been successful. They just can't admit it publicly, so they flounder around looking for any excuse that they can find and hold on to.
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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [RINO Rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]
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RINO Rick_pcfl wrote:


jmh wrote:


And he had Christopher Miller, the Acting Secretary of the Army and a trump cult fuckwit, significantly limit the options the DC National Guard had to deal with an insurrection two days prior.


I am not defending any decisions made by trumpists for that day, but in an attempt to be objective...

While looking at information so that I could respond to people who say that Pelosi refused help from the NG, I found where the mayor of DC had requested that the NG be available. She had put some conditions on their presence in DC. It seems that she had done so as a result of trump's walk through Lafayette Square.

The list in your memo looks like it was written to accommodate her request.

. https://www.newsweek.com/...uard-unarmed-1661320

You are correct this memo reflects all of the fallout from Lafayette Square protests in June. Miller could then use this as a convenient excuse to not respond and provide less force to oppose the crowd. The Mayor did specifically ask for and was provided some 300 Guard for traffic control mostly. The events of 1/5 and 1/6 were known to be focused on the freedom square, the elipse, the Mall and the Capitol. The DCMPD and the Mayor had their shit together and understood the target was not the streets of the city. Miller and his DC National Guard commander are not off the hook whatsover and their correspondence and discussions with the USCP Capitol Police Chief, Sergeant at Arms of both the House and Senate is the key. I did not watch yesterday was there any reference to the USCP performance or testimony from two Sergeant at Arms?
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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [RINO Rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]
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I see it in Yahoo comment section ALL OF THE TIME. So, they blame Pelosi (who had nothing to do with it) and don't blame the guy who sent them there.


The GOP (or others) blaming Pelosi are also retconning the entire thing. At the time, people were worried that national guard members/DOD leaders would be sympathetic to Trump. I havnt been this aspect of things too closely, but I think the DOD or NG took forever to act. So it seems like in part that was the case. Also officer Felona (sp?) has said that he has been harassed online from cops/been given no/minimal support from the GOP/cops.

Something I know the answer too, but I want the GOP to admit, is what would have happened if the militia was successful. Knowing what we know now, and that the ENTIRE GOP knew then, what if mike pence went along with the BS? Aside from a handful of GOP members, the GOP would have been perfectly fine with this.

It is entirely insane that there has been zero atonement or punishment for most of the GOP who have literally looked the other way dealing with knowingly bunk arguments to overthrow the government.
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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [RINO Rick_pcfl] [ In reply to ]
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RINO Rick_pcfl wrote:
sosayusall wrote:
It’s also generally insane that Nancy pelosi should be to blame for not having more cops to defend against the president sending armed militia to attack the capitol.

I see it in Yahoo comment section ALL OF THE TIME. So, they blame Pelosi (who had nothing to do with it) and don't blame the guy who sent them there.

Honestly, I think that most of them know exactly what Jan 6 was, and wish that it had been successful. They just can't admit it publicly, so they flounder around looking for any excuse that they can find and hold on to.

Also McConnell had equal authority to Pelosi, yet they only blame Pelosi. Which is how you know that shit is a meaningless distraction.
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Re: Jan 6 June & July Hearings Thread [sosayusall] [ In reply to ]
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I see it in Yahoo comment section ALL OF THE TIME. So, they blame Pelosi (who had nothing to do with it) and don't blame the guy who sent them there.


The GOP (or others) blaming Pelosi are also retconning the entire thing. At the time, people were worried that national guard members/DOD leaders would be sympathetic to Trump. I havnt been this aspect of things too closely, but I think the DOD or NG took forever to act. So it seems like in part that was the case. Also officer Felona (sp?) has said that he has been harassed online from cops/been given no/minimal support from the GOP/cops.

Something I know the answer too, but I want the GOP to admit, is what would have happened if the militia was successful. Knowing what we know now, and that the ENTIRE GOP knew then, what if mike pence went along with the BS? Aside from a handful of GOP members, the GOP would have been perfectly fine with this.

It is entirely insane that there has been zero atonement or punishment for most of the GOP who have literally looked the other way dealing with knowingly bunk arguments to overthrow the government.

Without a doubt. Every opponent of a GOP running for federal office should ask them if they would have stood for or against trump had their scams worked and kept him in office.

"The Jan 6 hearings have shown us that trump was trying various angles to overturn the results of the election. If he had been successful, would you have supported keeping him in office or would you have supported removing him?" Get them on record.
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Re: Jan 6 June Hearings Thread [tigermilk] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:
sphere wrote:
According to whom?


I think she indicated that is was part of testimony from someone on the administration’s staff.

I don’t think she said the person’s name.


https://www.politico.com/...n-6-hearing-00038724

Scott Perry named.

Guess who's phone just got seized by the FBI.

Best week ever?

Suffer Well.
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Re: Jan 6 June Hearings Thread [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:
tigermilk wrote:
jmh wrote:
sphere wrote:
According to whom?


I think she indicated that is was part of testimony from someone on the administration’s staff.

I don’t think she said the person’s name.


https://www.politico.com/...n-6-hearing-00038724

Scott Perry named.


Guess who's phone just got seized by the FBI.

Best week ever?


In other news, Jorge Lopez, spokesman for the Sinaloa cartel, said that it was outrageous the the US Border patrol had raided their US warehouse, and destroyed the attached tunnel leading into Mexico. “If they just contacted us, and asked us to stop importing drugs, we would have done so. Instead, they raided with dozens of gun wielding police, and aggressive attack dogs. Where are we, Nazi Germany”?
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Re: Jan 6 June Hearings Thread [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:
tigermilk wrote:
jmh wrote:
sphere wrote:
According to whom?


I think she indicated that is was part of testimony from someone on the administration’s staff.

I don’t think she said the person’s name.


https://www.politico.com/...n-6-hearing-00038724

Scott Perry named.

Guess who's phone just got seized by the FBI.

Best week ever?

Another example of the deep state overreach!

Next thing you know people will be arrested for murdering their wives. Big brother is coming for you!!!

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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