I'm not making any argument about math teachers.

You're reaching.

Exactly. The gun's utility is determined by the person, not the existence of the gun.

It's OK to admit this.

It doesn't mean we don't need better controls.

Many things can be true at once.

sure, but is it easier to determine who's crazy enough to shoot up a school, or to afford gun ownership to certain ages/training levels/firepower

don't think the founders intended the enslaved have easy access to weapons, restrictions were already baked in, even if unstated

You don't think having 400 million guns in US circulation is just a bit much? (fyi, that is about 70 million more guns than people) So what is a good number? 800 million guns? Maybe a billion guns? A few billion guns?

Many, many other countries, quite successfully, seem to take a different approach. Should we not learn from them if their approach seems to work?

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The “utility” of the “AR-15” is most certainly that it “exists”. We wouldn’t be talking about it if it weren’t so.

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Next is for you to lobby your congressional representatives for that to happen. Have you done that?

The hypocrisy of "some" (i.e. most of) the right is typical. They were all worried about the supposed social aspects of kids having to wear masks in school, yet they want to turn schools into fortresses with armed teachers, one entry, metal detectors, etc. How the fuck do you think that would affect the kids socially? And my mom was an elementary school teacher. She's the last person who should have been carrying a gun. The fact that the right refuses to look at the hard and fast facts from other countries goes right along with their science denial. And, yes, I'm generalizing . Of course, not all R's are like this.

 

Well now you have established humans using guns are the problem, do you a want to remove guns, b remove humans orthe smart choice c reduce human access to and limit type and use of guns.

I'll go with C Stevie G

You are the one who wants to limit so it's your number to define.

At what level of gun ownership will you accept mass shootings?

I would rather have no mass shootings, if possible.

If not, I would like to reduce our mass shooting rate by 95% or more.

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First, you established humans are the problem, not me.

Second, this doesn't need to be an "or".

Third, my position from the beginning has always been to limit access to guns for those that shouldn't have them, so I guess that's "C"?

Tell you what, I'll act like you cornered me into answering "C" with your asinine multiple choice test and we'll pretend you won this round because I'm bored.

Second, this doesn't need to be an "or".

c reduce human access to and limit type and use of guns.

So, your saying you want the USA to be like California. Got it.

FYI- in Wisconsin, I have waited as little as 1 hour to buy a gun with a background check. Not a 5 day wait.

JHarris, Your ability to summarize and retell needs improvement. I never said I want the US to be like California. Goddamn it. Instead, I gave you a very thorough explanation for why federal laws, rather than state laws, should govern these issues. Did you read what I wrote at all?

FYI- The 5 day background check was part of the Brady Bill, which was a federal law passed in 1993 amending the Gun Control Act of 1968. In 1998 the federal National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) was instituted.

You have the patience of an endurance athlete.

Do you read your own posts?