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High Energy Bike Car Collision (or a reason for people who are already scared of riding outside to really claim it's dangerous)
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3 weeks ago last night I made a mental mistake on an easy solo ride. I ride about 5000 miles a year outside and I have been doing it for 30 years. I've had my moments over the years but this one was special.

I was coming down a slight incline that ends with a stoplight at a fairly heavily traveled 2 lane road. That intersection is at the very top of a hill, short by 400 meters, and everyone on a bike turns right and hammers down the 3 mile continuous down grade that has a 10 ft wide apron that is in great shape with very few driveways - the ultimate shift, get in to the drops and spin out.

I was wearing Specialized bib shorts, half finger gloves, and a standard bike jersey. My helmet was a S-Works Evade with MIPS and InRide activated. My phone was in my back shirt pocket.

As I got to the intersection my front wheel washed out on sand and I hit the road hard on my right side. That caused me to skid into traffic and hit the side of a Honda Civic that was passing by at about 40 mph, bounce off the car and hit again on my right side with my head pushed into a cement curb. I heard a woman screaming for help and my fogged in brain thought that she needed help and I tried to get up. That didn't work so well. I was still clipped in on one side and my right leg and arm refused to work. It only took a moment to realize she was trying to keep traffic coming down the hill from running over me. My legs and bike was out in the road.

A guy in a F250 work truck came by and parked at an angle to protect me and the next thing I remember is being loaded into the ambulance, backboard, C-Collar, large bore IVs, EKG, and a machine constantly taking my blood pressure and and pulse. I was a NYS paramedic for 10 year so I understood that someone was hurt bad but I couldn't figure out who. I heard them talking to the trauma center and could not believe they were discussing me.

To cut to the end, I have a broken bone in my left hand from the impact with the car that did not need splinted and a subluxation of the right AC joint. The bike had bent/cracked handlebars, my left brifter is damaged but usable for now, and the front wheel and fork collapsed. Specialized had the fork and front wheel I needed but I now have Ritchie handlebars. The bike was UT'd to make sure the frame survived (Roubaix Pro) and it did. Truthfully the bike looks pretty good.

InRide recorded a 28g impact, at 22g impact, and a 20g impact - road, car, curb. That helmet was sent to Specialized at their request. Apparently that is more force than the helmet should be able to withstand and it did it 3 time, stayed on my head, and I have no neck or head injuries other than a big bruise that covered the right side of my head to my jaw line.

I was released the next day at noon and told I was very lucky to be alive. I came off concussion protocols yesterday but was told to still be careful. My bike came back Monday night and me and my bike buddy went for an easy 35 mile ride together last night. I had to get back on the horse that threw me :) The left hand works fine, I just can't bump it. The right shoulder is the problem. I'm going to have to go see a specialist next week.

Be careful out there. Sometimes the vehicle drivers are not your biggest concern. Sometimes it is that lump of fat between your ears that will get you.

"...the street finds its own uses for things"
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Re: High Energy Bike Car Collision (or a reason for people who are already scared of riding outside to really claim it's dangerous) [AutomaticJack] [ In reply to ]
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Feck me. That was defo a close one.
Glad you're relatively intact.
And interesting the helmet / the inride (assume an Angi device on the helmet) recorded the accelerations.
(I've got an Angi on my Prevail helmet, but not had to call it into use so far thankfully).

Back on the horse too - good move.
Take it easy and recover well.
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Re: High Energy Bike Car Collision (or a reason for people who are already scared of riding outside to really claim it's dangerous) [AutomaticJack] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry to hear about your incident, glad you're with us.

Thanks for sharing.

It is a good reminder. Some of it is the risk of riding familiar and favorite routes all the time. You think you know every bump, pot hole, piece of sand or gravel, etc... But all it takes is that one misjudgement.

I've started to alter my routes to get rid turns or intersections where I'd rely on experience more than visual verification and action.

Best example is a right turn in my neighborhood. You go down a little gravity well U shaped hill and back up to a stop sign. Slow speed limit but you get in the habit of looking left and nobody there as you go on. All it takes is the one day somebody is cresting the hill downward as I turn right. So, I got rid of that turn. I now go up 300 yards or so to another street where I go straight at a 4-way at top of a little rise where I'm going really slow anyway.

Same like this with the speed and sand or washout. I've started eating the time to slow to a pace I could "tripod" to a stop with one leg unclipped sliding to a stop without entering the intersection by slowing to that pace.

Appreciate you sharing, good reminder!
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Re: High Energy Bike Car Collision (or a reason for people who are already scared of riding outside to really claim it's dangerous) [AutomaticJack] [ In reply to ]
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Good write up, thanks!

That is hardcore! I was hit by a car while running and ejected into traffic. Luckily I was good at Frogger and avoided further strikes. Talk about some fun memories. I escaped with a bruised hip muscle.

You are a beast for getting back out there!
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Re: High Energy Bike Car Collision (or a reason for people who are already scared of riding outside to really claim it's dangerous) [AutomaticJack] [ In reply to ]
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AutomaticJack wrote:
3 weeks ago last night I made a mental mistake on an easy solo ride. I ride about 5000 miles a year outside and I have been doing it for 30 years. I've had my moments over the years but this one was special.

I was coming down a slight incline that ends with a stoplight at a fairly heavily traveled 2 lane road. That intersection is at the very top of a hill, short by 400 meters, and everyone on a bike turns right and hammers down the 3 mile continuous down grade that has a 10 ft wide apron that is in great shape with very few driveways - the ultimate shift, get in to the drops and spin out.

I was wearing Specialized bib shorts, half finger gloves, and a standard bike jersey. My helmet was a S-Works Evade with MIPS and InRide activated. My phone was in my back shirt pocket.

As I got to the intersection my front wheel washed out on sand and I hit the road hard on my right side. That caused me to skid into traffic and hit the side of a Honda Civic that was passing by at about 40 mph, bounce off the car and hit again on my right side with my head pushed into a cement curb. I heard a woman screaming for help and my fogged in brain thought that she needed help and I tried to get up. That didn't work so well. I was still clipped in on one side and my right leg and arm refused to work. It only took a moment to realize she was trying to keep traffic coming down the hill from running over me. My legs and bike was out in the road.

A guy in a F250 work truck came by and parked at an angle to protect me and the next thing I remember is being loaded into the ambulance, backboard, C-Collar, large bore IVs, EKG, and a machine constantly taking my blood pressure and and pulse. I was a NYS paramedic for 10 year so I understood that someone was hurt bad but I couldn't figure out who. I heard them talking to the trauma center and could not believe they were discussing me.

To cut to the end, I have a broken bone in my left hand from the impact with the car that did not need splinted and a subluxation of the right AC joint. The bike had bent/cracked handlebars, my left brifter is damaged but usable for now, and the front wheel and fork collapsed. Specialized had the fork and front wheel I needed but I now have Ritchie handlebars. The bike was UT'd to make sure the frame survived (Roubaix Pro) and it did. Truthfully the bike looks pretty good.

InRide recorded a 28g impact, at 22g impact, and a 20g impact - road, car, curb. That helmet was sent to Specialized at their request. Apparently that is more force than the helmet should be able to withstand and it did it 3 time, stayed on my head, and I have no neck or head injuries other than a big bruise that covered the right side of my head to my jaw line.

I was released the next day at noon and told I was very lucky to be alive. I came off concussion protocols yesterday but was told to still be careful. My bike came back Monday night and me and my bike buddy went for an easy 35 mile ride together last night. I had to get back on the horse that threw me :) The left hand works fine, I just can't bump it. The right shoulder is the problem. I'm going to have to go see a specialist next week.

Be careful out there. Sometimes the vehicle drivers are not your biggest concern. Sometimes it is that lump of fat between your ears that will get you.

So glad that you are alive and relatively well. Helmets save lives people! I hope the mending process goes quickly for you.

I had an incident on my bike with a drink driver a few months back that required titanium in my femur. Life is precious and I'm glad to be alive and riding again already. Without a helmet who knows where I would be. This can be a "dangerous" sport, but I'd argue far less dangerous than frequent and often long distance driving, obesity, etc. etc. Wear your helmets people.
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Re: High Energy Bike Car Collision (or a reason for people who are already scared of riding outside to really claim it's dangerous) [AutomaticJack] [ In reply to ]
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 Whew! Glad you're well.

Sounds like one of those can't-avoid freak incidents that unfortunately do happen even to the best of riders, but always still good to retroactively analyze if there was any better way to reduce risk. In your case, sounds like a good helmet, good gloves, and enough awareness saved the day.
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Re: High Energy Bike Car Collision (or a reason for people who are already scared of riding outside to really claim it's dangerous) [AutomaticJack] [ In reply to ]
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AutomaticJack wrote:
I ride about 5000 miles a year outside and I have been doing it for 30 years. I've had my moments over the years but this one was special.

That's me. At this point I've deluded myself into thinking I'm immune to a self imposed crash. Thanks for the wake up call. Best of luck with recovery
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Re: High Energy Bike Car Collision (or a reason for people who are already scared of riding outside to really claim it's dangerous) [AutomaticJack] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, becoming complacent will get me one day too.

I do make it a point to never ignore stop signs and lights. In most cases, they're there for a good reason.
Helps to refocus, have peaceful sip of hydration, and the stop-and go makes one a stronger rider.
Careful with that broken finger. I once fractured one and there was a bone splinter from a joint cup that the quacks ignored when setting the finger. Got fused in there and now I can't straighten it anymore.

Hope you heal well.
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Re: High Energy Bike Car Collision (or a reason for people who are already scared of riding outside to really claim it's dangerous) [AutomaticJack] [ In reply to ]
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First of all, glad you're (relatively) ok and able to get back out on your bike.

The second thing that struck me when reading your story is how weirdly our brains process traumatic incidents like that (you wondering who it was who needed help, etc.). I was hit by a car a few years ago, and the first thing I remember doing after the impact was trying to get up and chase my water bottle that was rolling away down the street. It seemed really important at that moment...
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Re: High Energy Bike Car Collision (or a reason for people who are already scared of riding outside to really claim it's dangerous) [ntl_tri] [ In reply to ]
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ntl_tri wrote:
First of all, glad you're (relatively) ok and able to get back out on your bike.

The second thing that struck me when reading your story is how weirdly our brains process traumatic incidents like that (you wondering who it was who needed help, etc.). I was hit by a car a few years ago, and the first thing I remember doing after the impact was trying to get up and chase my water bottle that was rolling away down the street. It seemed really important at that moment...

Brain is a funny thing. When I had my crash five weeks ago (several injuries and titanium clavicle now) the first thing I asked for was a splint (I still laugh at that). Next thing was I apparently stated several times "Okay, I'm more coherent now." and then didn't say anything. This was without a concussion.

Really glad your okay.

Not a coach. Not a FOP Tri/swimmer/biker/runner. Barely a MOP AGer.
But I'm learning and making progress.
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Re: High Energy Bike Car Collision (or a reason for people who are already scared of riding outside to really claim it's dangerous) [Thom] [ In reply to ]
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Thom wrote:
AutomaticJack wrote:
I ride about 5000 miles a year outside and I have been doing it for 30 years. I've had my moments over the years but this one was special.


That's me. At this point I've deluded myself into thinking I'm immune to a self imposed crash. Thanks for the wake up call. Best of luck with recovery
Yep me too. I have never had a serious crash in all my years and miles of riding. Until 2015. Hospital and 5 broken bones.

As for cars and high energy crashes. Watching Mythbusters do some of those stunts with cars was eye opening. Shitty old underpowered car snapped 5/8 inch steel cables like it's twine.
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