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Re: someone get her into triathlon... [synthetic]
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https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...swimmer..__P6739061/
Thing is, none of this guarantees she will be any good on a bike. They put Mo Farah on a bike in the BBC Superstars show and he was rubbish.
Thing is, none of this guarantees she will be any good on a bike. They put Mo Farah on a bike in the BBC Superstars show and he was rubbish.
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [knighty76]
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knighty76 wrote:
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...swimmer..__P6739061/ Thing is, none of this guarantees she will be any good on a bike. They put Mo Farah on a bike in the BBC Superstars show and he was rubbish.
as i said bike is just transportation. but now im curious to farah results. have a link to the clip? I could not find.
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [knighty76]
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knighty76 wrote:
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...swimmer..__P6739061/ Thing is, none of this guarantees she will be any good on a bike. They put Mo Farah on a bike in the BBC Superstars show and he was rubbish.
He couldn't sprint, cycle, swim, throw, lift, paddle, aim, etc
Consolidated my view that single discipline hyper-specialisation is not for me!
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [synthetic]
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synthetic wrote:
bike is just transportation from swim to run race :) https://www.instagram.com/stories/jordanhasay/2528971498549176617/ (she swims 1:30s)
her vs gwen in a 140.6 .... hmmmm..
but she wears cheater shoes...
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [jkhayc]
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jkhayc wrote:
synthetic wrote:
bike is just transportation from swim to run race :) https://www.instagram.com/stories/jordanhasay/2528971498549176617/ (she swims 1:30s)
her vs gwen in a 140.6 .... hmmmm..
but she wears cheater shoes...
they both do, and they are racing each other, not for time PR's on the run.
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [jkhayc]
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Poor Mo. I don't think he is alone. Single sport folks or even triathletes spend a lot of time doing a very limited spectrum of the sporting world.
When I was in college I worked at a summer camp as a swimming ,canoe instructor and beach manager. One of the kids I worked with came from a very wealthy family and was in military schools thru high school. No matter the sport he was tough to beat. Tetherball, pingpong, tennis, golf, horseshoes, basketball, baseball, gymnastics, wrestling, and a bunch of other sports he was a destroyer. In a 25 yard swim I could beat him by half a body (Was a flyer and distance freestyler in college) and I could out run him in a mile, but lose to him in a 100yard dash. He was just a very competent level competitor across the board. The speciality instructors could all beat him pretty handily at their sport, but other sports not so much.
Hard to say if a lady like that would take to triathlon. Every sport has a personality that you either take to or not.
When I was in college I worked at a summer camp as a swimming ,canoe instructor and beach manager. One of the kids I worked with came from a very wealthy family and was in military schools thru high school. No matter the sport he was tough to beat. Tetherball, pingpong, tennis, golf, horseshoes, basketball, baseball, gymnastics, wrestling, and a bunch of other sports he was a destroyer. In a 25 yard swim I could beat him by half a body (Was a flyer and distance freestyler in college) and I could out run him in a mile, but lose to him in a 100yard dash. He was just a very competent level competitor across the board. The speciality instructors could all beat him pretty handily at their sport, but other sports not so much.
Hard to say if a lady like that would take to triathlon. Every sport has a personality that you either take to or not.
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [synthetic]
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All those who use cheater shoes should be disavowed.
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [Ai_1]
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Ai_1 wrote:
knighty76 wrote:
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...swimmer..__P6739061/ Thing is, none of this guarantees she will be any good on a bike. They put Mo Farah on a bike in the BBC Superstars show and he was rubbish.
As I remember it, he was really bad at pretty much everything except middle/long distance running.
He couldn't sprint, cycle, swim, throw, lift, paddle, aim, etc
Consolidated my view that single discipline hyper-specialisation is not for me!
Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Mo Farah was rubbish at anything other than distance-running and the Brownlees were hopeless over 100m. From memory it was, like, 18 seconds or something. The boxer won outright.
But the point is, being a good runner certainly won't make you a good triathlete. Bike-specific fitness is a thing (like we didn't know that). And unlike the OP I don't believe for one second that you can succeed at the highest level in any format, draft-legal or otherwise, without being strong on the bike.
Cheers, Rich.
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [knighty76]
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knighty76 wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
knighty76 wrote:
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...swimmer..__P6739061/ Thing is, none of this guarantees she will be any good on a bike. They put Mo Farah on a bike in the BBC Superstars show and he was rubbish.
As I remember it, he was really bad at pretty much everything except middle/long distance running.
He couldn't sprint, cycle, swim, throw, lift, paddle, aim, etc
Consolidated my view that single discipline hyper-specialisation is not for me!
Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Mo Farah was rubbish at anything other than distance-running and the Brownlees were hopeless over 100m. From memory it was, like, 18 seconds or something. The boxer won outright.
But the point is, being a good runner certainly won't make you a good triathlete. Bike-specific fitness is a thing (like we didn't know that). And unlike the OP I don't believe for one second that you can succeed at the highest level in any format, draft-legal or otherwise, without being strong on the bike.
Cheers, Rich.
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [synthetic]
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Are you aware of her shoes and her sponsor?
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Re: someone get her into triathlon... [synthetic]
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synthetic wrote:
knighty76 wrote:
https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...swimmer..__P6739061/ Thing is, none of this guarantees she will be any good on a bike. They put Mo Farah on a bike in the BBC Superstars show and he was rubbish.
as i said bike is just transportation. but now im curious to farah results. have a link to the clip? I could not find.
Sounds like a solid view on how to run a good marathon off the bike.
Hasay would need to change her body type a LOT for tri. But Colleen Quigley or Emma Coburn - both look like they could be amazing triathletes to me.
Steeplechasers tend to do well in this sport...
DFRU - Detta Family Racing Unit...the kids like it and we all get out and after it...gotta keep the fam involved!
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [knighty76]
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The Brownlee's aren't great sprinters. But they do run faster than 18 sec per 100, for the entire 10k, in a triathlon.
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [oprfcc]
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Agreed, 18 second is 3 minutes per k. But maybe what they where really bad at was launching from the starting blocks. 18 seconds still seems to slow.
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [Ai_1]
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Ai_1 wrote:
Consolidated my view that single discipline hyper-specialisation is not for me!I guess that's one way to make ourselves feel better about not being great at anything. lol
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [ecce-homo]
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Agreed, 18 second is 3 minutes per k. But maybe what they where really bad at was launching from the starting blocks. 18 seconds still seems to slow.Yeah I saw the show a few years ago. Mo Farah got 12.9s. Pretty slow, but it was wet, no spikes etc. I would imagine with the right gear, decent weather, decent warmup, Farah would be low 12s. He's a middle distance runner, anything below 12 is creeping into sprinting territory. I can't remember what the Brownlees got, it was much quicker than 18s, I think it was 13 something. AB holds 18s/100m for 10km.
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [BigBoyND]
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BigBoyND wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
Consolidated my view that single discipline hyper-specialisation is not for me!I guess that's one way to make ourselves feel better about not being great at anything. lol
But seriously, I'd rather be really good at a hundred things than amazing at one. I know that's probably not the attitude most have around here, but that last 1% of performance takes more effort than it's worth. Not because I'm lazy, but because the effort is better spent getting to 99% in the next endevour. Just my opinion of course, but I've always thought certain types of greatness required an imagination deficit.
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [Ai_1]
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Ai_1 wrote:
BigBoyND wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
Consolidated my view that single discipline hyper-specialisation is not for me!
I guess that's one way to make ourselves feel better about not being great at anything. lol
I'm great at everything!
But seriously, I'd rather be really good at a hundred things than amazing at one. I know that's probably not the attitude most have around here, but that last 1% of performance takes more effort than it's worth. Not because I'm lazy, but because the effort is better spent getting to 99% in the next endevour. Just my opinion of course, but I've always thought certain types of greatness required an imagination deficit.
so you must be heavily vested into crossfit...?
this reminds me also of what I saw on recent youtube feed for suggestions. symmonds vs bare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLmD3EkKZnM
maybe talbot cox can get a triathlete to do this type of challenge :)
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [zedzded]
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zedzded wrote:
ecce-homo wrote:
Agreed, 18 second is 3 minutes per k. But maybe what they where really bad at was launching from the starting blocks. 18 seconds still seems to slow.Yeah I saw the show a few years ago. Mo Farah got 12.9s. Pretty slow, but it was wet, no spikes etc. I would imagine with the right gear, decent weather, decent warmup, Farah would be low 12s. He's a middle distance runner, anything below 12 is creeping into sprinting territory. I can't remember what the Brownlees got, it was much quicker than 18s, I think it was 13 something. AB holds 18s/100m for 10km.
I was under 12 secs for 100m at 16yo and definitely not a sprinter (although playing football/soccer may have helped my all-around profile for running). I was at my best at middle distance and distance running (only up to 3-5k as you don't do much longer races at that age).
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [Ai_1]
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Ai_1 wrote:
BigBoyND wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
Consolidated my view that single discipline hyper-specialisation is not for me!
I guess that's one way to make ourselves feel better about not being great at anything. lol
I'm great at everything!
But seriously, I'd rather be really good at a hundred things than amazing at one. I know that's probably not the attitude most have around here, but that last 1% of performance takes more effort than it's worth. Not because I'm lazy, but because the effort is better spent getting to 99% in the next endevour. Just my opinion of course, but I've always thought certain types of greatness required an imagination deficit.
You should take up centrathlon! ;-)
I'd hate to think how much gear you'd need for that sport, but the transition area would look amazing. :-/
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [synthetic]
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synthetic wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
BigBoyND wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
Consolidated my view that single discipline hyper-specialisation is not for me!
I guess that's one way to make ourselves feel better about not being great at anything. lol
I'm great at everything!
But seriously, I'd rather be really good at a hundred things than amazing at one. I know that's probably not the attitude most have around here, but that last 1% of performance takes more effort than it's worth. Not because I'm lazy, but because the effort is better spent getting to 99% in the next endevour. Just my opinion of course, but I've always thought certain types of greatness required an imagination deficit.
so you must be heavily vested into crossfit...?
Nope
Why must I?
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [satanellus]
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satanellus wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
BigBoyND wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
Consolidated my view that single discipline hyper-specialisation is not for me!
I guess that's one way to make ourselves feel better about not being great at anything. lol
I'm great at everything!
But seriously, I'd rather be really good at a hundred things than amazing at one. I know that's probably not the attitude most have around here, but that last 1% of performance takes more effort than it's worth. Not because I'm lazy, but because the effort is better spent getting to 99% in the next endevour. Just my opinion of course, but I've always thought certain types of greatness required an imagination deficit.
You should take up centrathlon! ;-)
I'd hate to think how much gear you'd need for that sport, but the transition area would look amazing. :-/
Re: someone get her into triathlon... [Ai_1]
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Ai_1 wrote:
synthetic wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
BigBoyND wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
Consolidated my view that single discipline hyper-specialisation is not for me!
I guess that's one way to make ourselves feel better about not being great at anything. lol
I'm great at everything!
But seriously, I'd rather be really good at a hundred things than amazing at one. I know that's probably not the attitude most have around here, but that last 1% of performance takes more effort than it's worth. Not because I'm lazy, but because the effort is better spent getting to 99% in the next endevour. Just my opinion of course, but I've always thought certain types of greatness required an imagination deficit.
so you must be heavily vested into crossfit...?
Nope
Why must I?
that is the sport where you test you jack of all trades ability.
synthetic wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
synthetic wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
BigBoyND wrote:
Ai_1 wrote:
Consolidated my view that single discipline hyper-specialisation is not for me!
I guess that's one way to make ourselves feel better about not being great at anything. lol
I'm great at everything!
But seriously, I'd rather be really good at a hundred things than amazing at one. I know that's probably not the attitude most have around here, but that last 1% of performance takes more effort than it's worth. Not because I'm lazy, but because the effort is better spent getting to 99% in the next endevour. Just my opinion of course, but I've always thought certain types of greatness required an imagination deficit.
so you must be heavily vested into crossfit...?
Nope
Why must I?
that is the sport where you test you jack of all trades ability.
I think your idea of "all trades" is a bit limited ;) and I don't think I even said I was specifically talking about sports, did I?
Stop trying to put everything in a box. It's unnecessary and kinda pathetic.
If I'd been trying to say CrossFitTM was better than any other "sport", I would have said it. I couldn't care less about CrossFitTM.