It's been 50 years since Ali vs Frazier 1, March 8th, 1971. It's still the best heavyweight bout I've ever seen. It was the Fight of the Century. It was a Rocky movie in real life. I saw the ESPN Presents episode commemorating the fight and watched the whole fight again, and it was worth watching. It was interesting to see the score cards. Frazier had it won before the knockdown in the 15th round, but it sealed it.
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Re: Ali vs Frazier [zed707]
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The singular apex moment of a sport in decline since.
Re: Ali vs Frazier [gofigure]
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The Ali-Frazier myth has grown over the years
Ali never beat Frazier for the World Title: Frazier retained the title in #1, neither owned the title in #2, Ali retained the tile in the Thrilla in Manila
I'll bet people think "Down goes Frazier!!! Down goes Frazier!!!" occurred in one of the Ali fights [it was Foreman who knocked Frazier out, to Cosell's astonishment]
"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
Ali never beat Frazier for the World Title: Frazier retained the title in #1, neither owned the title in #2, Ali retained the tile in the Thrilla in Manila
I'll bet people think "Down goes Frazier!!! Down goes Frazier!!!" occurred in one of the Ali fights [it was Foreman who knocked Frazier out, to Cosell's astonishment]
"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
Re: Ali vs Frazier [zed707]
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Frazier's left hook was a thing of beauty. Hard to believe something could be so vicious and yet so sublime.
Re: Ali vs Frazier [zed707]
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These guys were so good back then, Foreman and Ken Norton as well in the heavyweight division. Late 70s through the 80s had all the great middleweights like Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, Duran, Arguello and then of course Tyson dominated the heavyweights in the late 80s. I lost interest in it after then although the Ward-Gatti trilogy briefly brought me back (especially with Ward being local). I don’t think I’ve watchedmboxing since except for rewatching some of the classic older bouts.
"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race." - Richard Butler
"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race." - Richard Butler
Re: Ali vs Frazier [RandMart]
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RandMart wrote:
The Ali-Frazier myth has grown over the years Ali never beat Frazier for the World Title: Frazier retained the title in #1, neither owned the title in #2, Ali retained the tile in the Thrilla in Manila
I'll bet people think "Down goes Frazier!!! Down goes Frazier!!!" occurred in one of the Ali fights [it was Foreman who knocked Frazier out, to Cosell's astonishment]
I didn't know that there was an Ali-Frazier myth and that it is growing.
These are just basic facts that you list off that even the casual boxing fan would know.
Re: Ali vs Frazier [Brian in MA]
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Brian in MA wrote:
I don’t think I’ve watched boxing since except for rewatching some of the classic older bouts.It's all about MMA/UFC now
Lloyd Dobler was right, back in 1989; kickboxing WAS the sport of the future
"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
Re: Ali vs Frazier [RandMart]
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RandMart wrote:
Brian in MA wrote:
I don’t think I’ve watched boxing since except for rewatching some of the classic older bouts.It's all about MMA/UFC now
Lloyd Dobler was right, back in 1989; kickboxing WAS the sport of the future
“He got ditched in the Malibu, doesn’t know what to do. Lloyd, Lloyd all null and void!”
I absolutely love that movie, one of my all-time favorites.
"You can never win or lose if you don't run the race." - Richard Butler
Re: Ali vs Frazier [RandMart]
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RandMart wrote:
Brian in MA wrote:
I don’t think I’ve watched boxing since except for rewatching some of the classic older bouts.It's all about MMA/UFC now
Lloyd Dobler was right, back in 1989; kickboxing WAS the sport of the future
He was close. Pure kickboxing never really took off, but MMA certainly seems to have.
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Re: Ali vs Frazier [zed707]
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Well I know what I will be doing for the next hour.
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Re: Ali vs Frazier [DavHamm]
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DavHamm wrote:
Well I know what I will be doing for the next hour. Thanks for posting the video. Enjoy!
Re: Ali vs Frazier [zed707]
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zed707 wrote:
RandMart wrote:
The Ali-Frazier myth has grown over the years Ali never beat Frazier for the World Title: Frazier retained the title in #1, neither owned the title in #2, Ali retained the tile in the Thrilla in Manila
I'll bet people think "Down goes Frazier!!! Down goes Frazier!!!" occurred in one of the Ali fights [it was Foreman who knocked Frazier out, to Cosell's astonishment]
I didn't know that there was an Ali-Frazier myth and that it is growing.
These are just basic facts that you list off that even the casual boxing fan would know.
I, too, know nothing of a myth. Ali-Frazier might be the greatest sports rivalry of my lifetime.
Re: Ali vs Frazier [ike]
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Myth was the wrong word, sorry
What's the word for something that gets bigger over time, and retold over generations? I meant to use that
"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
What's the word for something that gets bigger over time, and retold over generations? I meant to use that
"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
Re: Ali vs Frazier [gofigure]
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gofigure wrote:
The singular apex moment of a sport in decline since.Clearly you are unaware of Balboa v. Thunderlips.
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Re: Ali vs Frazier [sphere]
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Clearly, as I had to look that reference up on my google machine. I had the Balboa reference, but Thunderlips?? I thought the original Rocky movie to be good but I didn't continue into the series. Has the grandson of Rocky I made it to the silver screen yet? Or is the Hulk Hogan dead yet?
Re: Ali vs Frazier [gofigure]
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Milo Ventimiglia [This Is Us, The Art of Racing In The Rain] appears as Robert Balboa, Jr. in Rocky Balboa and Creed II
Robert has not followed in the family business, leaving that role to Adonis Johnson [Apollo's son], which has caused a rift between father & son
As far as Rocky's grandson? Spoilers - you'll have to watch Creed II
"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
Robert has not followed in the family business, leaving that role to Adonis Johnson [Apollo's son], which has caused a rift between father & son
As far as Rocky's grandson? Spoilers - you'll have to watch Creed II
"What's your claim?" - Ben Gravy
"Your best work is the work you're excited about" - Rick Rubin
Re: Ali vs Frazier [RandMart]
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RandMart wrote:
Milo Ventimiglia [This Is Us, The Art of Racing In The Rain] appears as Robert Balboa, Jr. in Rocky Balboa and Creed II Robert has not followed in the family business, leaving that role to Adonis Johnson [Apollo's son], which has caused a rift between father & son
As far as Rocky's grandson? Spoilers - you'll have to watch Creed II
You are joking right? Grandson sequels? YGTBSM. Oh in response to your" myth" misnomer that you maybe a walked back. With the entire world as their stage the Ali v Frazier rivalry still sits atop.
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zed707 wrote:
RandMart wrote:
The Ali-Frazier myth has grown over the years Ali never beat Frazier for the World Title: Frazier retained the title in #1, neither owned the title in #2, Ali retained the tile in the Thrilla in Manila
I'll bet people think "Down goes Frazier!!! Down goes Frazier!!!" occurred in one of the Ali fights [it was Foreman who knocked Frazier out, to Cosell's astonishment]
I didn't know that there was an Ali-Frazier myth and that it is growing.
These are just basic facts that you list off that even the casual boxing fan would know.
I, too, know nothing of a myth. Ali-Frazier might be the greatest sports rivalry of my lifetime.
I'm looking at their wiki pages right now. I find it interesting how long it took for Frazier to get a title shot. When he fought Ali, he was, I think, 27-0. For all intents and purposes, I'd say the day before he fought George Foreman, he might have been the greatest boxer of all time.
Ultimately, his record was 32-2 before his end of career losses. Ali was 55-2 before his.
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