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Shimano Chainring Combinations (4-bolt 110 bcd)
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Hi, Sort of nerdy mechanic question. I was wondering if there are any reasons not to try combining Shimano chainrings in combinations other than how they are sold. (For Dura Ace 9100 and Ultegra 8000)

They come in: 53/39, 52/36, 50/34, 46/36 CX, and then the rare combos with chainrings larger than 53... I know that the gap limit between rings is 14-16 teeth depending on which combination. I know that Ultegra 6800 also had a 38 tooth inner ring replacement option (rare and hard to track down).

If I wanted to make combos other than these – such as 52/39, 50/36, 50/39, 46/34 – is there any reason why they wouldn't work well? Is the ramping on the inside of the large rings optimized to work with an inner ring of a pre-set size? I'm partly wondering about a 46-34 combo as an option when changing gearing on an all-road bike between a more paved road setup vs. a more gravelly setup (and yes, I know there's GRX cranks with even lower gearing, but not quite the same bolt pattern, Q-factor, or chainline, and needing the GRX front derailleur). Also wondering about different tri builds where a 1x isn't quite enough, but the 34 feels too low when paired with a 50.

I assume that "They will work fine" is a likely answer, but I'm wondering if people know about "optimal" shifting and design or have experience, and there's nowhere else better to ask than here on Slowtwitch! Thanks!
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Re: Shimano Chainring Combinations (4-bolt 110 bcd) [AG Tri Newbie] [ In reply to ]
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Is the ramping on the inside of the large rings optimized to work with an inner ring of a pre-set size?



Yes

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Re: Shimano Chainring Combinations (4-bolt 110 bcd) [AG Tri Newbie] [ In reply to ]
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Just about any the Shimano-4-bolt-110BCD-compatible chainring combo you could ever imagine can be had here:


Outer Rings: https://specialites-ta.com/...l#/27,denture,46-dts


Inner Rings: https://specialites-ta.com/...l#/16,denture,33-dts


Supposedly any combo is compatible as long as the difference in tooth count is between 12 and 16. There are some really unique offerings including 49T and 51T outers, and a 33T inner.









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Re: Shimano Chainring Combinations (4-bolt 110 bcd) [gary p] [ In reply to ]
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Wow thanks! I really appreciate it!
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Re: Shimano Chainring Combinations (4-bolt 110 bcd) [AG Tri Newbie] [ In reply to ]
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I put a 36-inner ring on my 50-34 crankset Shimano DA 9100 crankset. I run them like that the time. It shifts as flawlessly as the original combination
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Re: Shimano Chainring Combinations (4-bolt 110 bcd) [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks – great feedback! I really appreciate it and will definitely be doing the same at some point!
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Re: Shimano Chainring Combinations (4-bolt 110 bcd) [AG Tri Newbie] [ In reply to ]
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I have a 50/36 combo with a 12/25 cassette on both my road bike and tri bike. Great combination for a flatlander. No issues at all.

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Re: Shimano Chainring Combinations (4-bolt 110 bcd) [AG Tri Newbie] [ In reply to ]
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My wife uses a 55/39 on her TT bike and has never had a bad thing to say about it.

I’ve also used 52/34 and 53/36 combos. Maybe it isn’t as crisp but it works just fine.
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Re: Shimano Chainring Combinations (4-bolt 110 bcd) [AG Tri Newbie] [ In reply to ]
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I'm running their 48/33 combo on my gravel bike, shifts great. They do have some cutouts on the little rings, not sure why, but I had to put some thin washers between the spider and the little ring to get it to work right. Once I figured out what was going on, it was pretty trivial to do though.
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