You can see the saddle widths on the ISM website. I have the PN 3.1 on my tri bike and it’s the best investment I’ve ever made.

Looks like the width listed is not where actually sit.

Never mind I found the right chart.....

The PN3.1 is just a 3.0 with more padding.

The new PN4.0 is a wider version of the 3.0

jcob saddles are amazing. I had pudendal nerve trauma and swelling from too-narrow of a saddle with center pressure. Love pretty much all the wider and more cushioned jcob (formerly Cobb) saddles, and my Selle SMP Kryt saddle. I would probably like other Selle SMP options too, but haven't tried.

ISM saddles have always been a little too wide at hamstring tendon area for me, or too narrow for central pressure relief.

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Sadly discontinued, but I was struggling to find the right width and had some luck with the adjustable Bontrager Hilo RXL speed dial. You can set the width yourself. It is a split nose design and slightly longer than some others (and a bit on the heavy side), but I've found it to be a good option for me and finally stopped my saddle search after about 6 or 7 different models! I think you can pick them up here and there if you think it might be worth a punt.

Alternatively, and along similar lines I wonder if a Bisaddle might be worth a try for you? Probably a better option given the Bonty is discontinued.

Cheers, Rich.

Yeah the by saddle and the Specialized sitero are on my current short list.

I have the original Sitero and it has worked well for me for years, whereas the ISM saddles don't seem to like me (or my backside doesn't like them). Now that said, I don't have a good lower back position, meaning kind of a vertical/upright lower back that has me sitting on the sit bones. Better way of describing may be that I don't roll my hips properly.....I think that is why the sitero works well for me.

You might wnat to look into one of the saddles that is on the ST ads a lot:

https://bisaddle.com/

A little more pricey than your typical off the shelf saddle, but adjustable, might be good for finding the perfect width that works for you.