4:23 per mi!e pace...

Dang. I was paying attention to the PTO championship and missed this.

5K road, 5K track, 10k track, 1 hour record, and now the half marathon. Lots of distance running records went down this year. I wonder if it being an Olympic year with no Olympics to compete at had any effect

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Matt

That is insane. There are a lot of funny times this year.

Or almost no drug testing.

There it is...

These guys have blood thicker than molasses. He set the WR at 13.1 in a pace faster than he's ever run a 5k/10k. No out of competition testing has allowed basically every record to be shattered. Plus the extra bouncy shoes don't hurt

yes valencia winners have been busted before. Also this is WR with asterisk - *carbon/foam spring shoe era*

running races need to stop noting times and focus on position place winners just like triathlon.

Yeah, it’s sad to reduce our evaluation of performances to records=drugs, but with the records this year, with very little in-competition testing, I’m going with records=drugs.

He's not even wearing Vaporflys.Clearly doping.

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What's your CdA?

I hate to admit, but I'm thinking the same thing seeing a lot of this stuff recently.

I didn't look it up, but if true......damn......faster 1/2 than a 5k or 10k.

You need to see the side cameras to understand how fast they are going. It's mind boggling. 16 second 100 meters. Like a dead out sprint.

They went through 15K only 0:04 off the 15K world record. Can I assume a 10 mile world record was thus set during this half marathon?

He's run multiple sub 59 half marathons before this. Whether he's doped or not I have no clue, but to imply that he's a doped up one-hit wonder who has never run anything fast before is simply false.

He's obviously a very talented runner. Not saying anything otherwise. But to drop from 58:38 to 57:32 is absolutely insane.

Most people running a 1:20 HM would be thrilled to shave over a minute off their PR. Doing this while already under an hour is mind boggling

Also 4 athletes going sub-58 including is beyond fishy. In any event, how often do you see a world records broken by 4 people?

Hey, I don't know. He was wearing the new Adidas super shoe. Maybe it's better than the Nike supershoes. Maybe he's got 60 percent hematocrit going on thanks to Covid and no testing. Who knows. Maybe a race sending pacesetters out at 2:35 kms to start gets them going where they need to be. Fwiw, 57:32 is still worse pace adjusted than marathon WR of 2:01:39.

You said he had never run a 5K at the pace he set the half marathon WR at, implying he's a nobody who set a crazy WR out of nowhere, and given he was already in the top 3 half marathoners ever I thought that was misleading. That's all. I have no idea whether the fast performances of late are simply like the bodysuit era of swimming (ie, the shoes) or whether we are seeing new doping.

Almost all shoe companies copied vaporfly technology.

I think the last honest natural running focused shoe companies are altra and topo. OC and Solomon also maybe not on the carbon-foam trend either