Hi. First I’m new the the sport of triathlon haven’t even had my first due to COVID. I’m a running who started cycling last spring with the intentions of doing Ironman Chattanooga in September of 2021. I own purchased a Giant Trinity advance as my tri bike and want to do some upgrades over the next few months.it’s is the basic model with 105 group set. I plan on upgrading the wheel set, group set to Dura Ace Di2 the bars and add maybe saddle. I have selected our cycling carbon wheel set with 60mm front with 90mm rear. I would like to know which upgrade would be best to start with due to I can’t do them all at once again COVID is limiting me budget wise. Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Re: Best upgrade for starters [Penny2269]
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di2 is a quality of life item, not a necessary upgrade
Saddle is also a quality of life item, but if you have the wrong one currently it's absolutely a necessary one.
Bars are a fit concern first, if the ones you have work for you, you aren't' buying a ton for flashy expensive ones
Wheels are nice, I'd probably get a disc over the 90 unless you have a specific reason not to.
Spend your money on a good fit first if you haven't. Then good clothing, then start going down the list of "accessories"
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Saddle is also a quality of life item, but if you have the wrong one currently it's absolutely a necessary one.
Bars are a fit concern first, if the ones you have work for you, you aren't' buying a ton for flashy expensive ones
Wheels are nice, I'd probably get a disc over the 90 unless you have a specific reason not to.
Spend your money on a good fit first if you haven't. Then good clothing, then start going down the list of "accessories"
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Re: Best upgrade for starters [Penny2269]
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Proper bike fit.
Re: Best upgrade for starters [Morelock]
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+1 on the fitting. It's soooo important to get a top-notch, reputable bike fitting. They're hard to find, frankly, so do a lot of research on the best person in your area. You have to be efficiently comfortable above all else.
I also agree that Di2 (or etap) is a luxury. Wheels and a saddle would be my next purchases, as well.
Good luck!
I also agree that Di2 (or etap) is a luxury. Wheels and a saddle would be my next purchases, as well.
Good luck!
Re: Best upgrade for starters [jimatbeyond]
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Thanks. Forgot to add that but that is the first thing I will do
Re: Best upgrade for starters [Morelock]
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Thanks. Bike fit is first on the list. Forgot to add that one
Re: Best upgrade for starters [jimatbeyond]
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jimatbeyond wrote:
Proper bike fit.+1
If you can't do it yourself very proficiently, this is money well spent. It is worth a lot of comfort and could be worth more watts than anything you can buy that is a physical object.
Next, I own both a 60/90 setup and a full 90/disc set of wheels along with 60/60 on my road bike. If I had to do it over again, I would only own the 60/60 road bike wheels and swap those to the TT to train on and own the 90/disc.
The 60/90 is no more stable and is pretty much just a filler set for me right now.
If you're looking into mechanical "kit" items in the drivetrain.......it is worth it IMO to own several cassettes and maybe even more than one chainring setup. Optimizing your gearing for your races can be worth a lot
Next, after you do a fit.......so you know where you'd wind up before buying.........try out some helmets and suit combos. Buy, sell until you get to the fastest and most utile combo. Same with the cockpit, I'd maybe hold off on that until you get a fit so you know what your body looks like up there and which cockpit will facilitate your fit and also be cleanest.
I'd go:
1. Fit
2. Helmet/suit combo based on where the fit wound up
3. Cockpit, also depends on the fit
4. Wheels, this is down here because despite offering gains.........the gains of a good fit with the right helmet and suit and right cockpit are all worth more savings.
5. Mechanical kit items (rings, gears, shifting, etc...)
Re: Best upgrade for starters [Penny2269]
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Penny2269 wrote:
Hi. First I’m new the the sport of triathlon haven’t even had my first due to COVID. I’m a running who started cycling last spring with the intentions of doing Ironman Chattanooga in September of 2021. I own purchased a Giant Trinity advance as my tri bike and want to do some upgrades over the next few months.it’s is the basic model with 105 group set. I plan on upgrading the wheel set, group set to Dura Ace Di2 the bars and add maybe saddle. I have selected our cycling carbon wheel set with 60mm front with 90mm rear. I would like to know which upgrade would be best to start with due to I can’t do them all at once again COVID is limiting me budget wise. Thanks in advance for any advice.Wheels and di2 are about the last things I’d upgrade
1) fit (and assorted doodads to enable the fit). You could be looking at spacer kits, crankset, aero extensions, etc). It adds up
2) saddle (concurrent with fit)
3) shoes, possibly. I always go as high end as I can afford, it makes a difference. And fit is key.
4) clothing. Race day and decent training wear.
5) power meter. I just got one and it’s a world of difference in the quality of my training.
6) indoor training setup (assuming you already have a basic indoor trainer)
7). Now you get to the wheels and di2.
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Re: Best upgrade for starters [Penny2269]
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Tubes and tires are one of the most significant and cheapest upgrades you can make from a dollar to speed perspective.
Re: Best upgrade for starters [cielo]
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cielo wrote:
Tubes and tires are one of the most significant and cheapest upgrades you can make from a dollar to speed perspective.+1
Re: Best upgrade for starters [LifeTri]
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My suggested order:
1 fit (saddle goes here)
2 power meter / indoor set up (if you’re not training right it doesn’t matter what you upgrade)*
3 helmet / tri suit
4 tires (bc cost benefit)
5 wheels
6 mechanical
If the pm is out of budget there are other ways to estimate power / or a smart trainer.
1 fit (saddle goes here)
2 power meter / indoor set up (if you’re not training right it doesn’t matter what you upgrade)*
3 helmet / tri suit
4 tires (bc cost benefit)
5 wheels
6 mechanical
If the pm is out of budget there are other ways to estimate power / or a smart trainer.
Re: Best upgrade for starters [JasoninHalifax]
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JasoninHalifax wrote:
Penny2269 wrote:
Hi. First I’m new the the sport of triathlon haven’t even had my first due to COVID. I’m a running who started cycling last spring with the intentions of doing Ironman Chattanooga in September of 2021. I own purchased a Giant Trinity advance as my tri bike and want to do some upgrades over the next few months.it’s is the basic model with 105 group set. I plan on upgrading the wheel set, group set to Dura Ace Di2 the bars and add maybe saddle. I have selected our cycling carbon wheel set with 60mm front with 90mm rear. I would like to know which upgrade would be best to start with due to I can’t do them all at once again COVID is limiting me budget wise. Thanks in advance for any advice.Wheels and di2 are about the last things I’d upgrade
1) fit (and assorted doodads to enable the fit). You could be looking at spacer kits, crankset, aero extensions, etc). It adds up
2) saddle (concurrent with fit)
3) shoes, possibly. I always go as high end as I can afford, it makes a difference. And fit is key.
4) clothing. Race day and decent training wear.
5) power meter. I just got one and it’s a world of difference in the quality of my training.
6) indoor training setup (assuming you already have a basic indoor trainer)
7). Now you get to the wheels and di2.
(1) fit shouldn’t be an upgrade but if you haven’t done it, yes get that done first
(2) saddle
(3) tires/tubes
(4) helmet-giro A2
(5) race suit
(6) premier bike chain
You can spend ~$400-$500 total for Numbers 2-6 above and get LOTS of speed and comfort.
(7) powermeter and old school trainer. You can get a very nice PM for sub $500. Direct drive trainer is cool and fun but has done nothing for my training.
(8) aerobar
(9) wheels
(10) Di2
Re: Best upgrade for starters [Penny2269]
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All the other posts are amazing and the only thing I'd add is a coach who can help you acheive your goals. All the upgrades in the world are useless if you're not properly trained.
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Re: Best upgrade for starters [burnthesheep]
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Thanks. Great info.
Re: Best upgrade for starters [cielo]
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Would you recommend tubeless vs tubes? Both bikes I own so far are tubeless so I don’t have any experience with riding tubes since Huffy days
Re: Best upgrade for starters [Morelock]
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Thanks
Re: Best upgrade for starters [JasoninHalifax]
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Thanks. Power meter is something that’s being added to my list also.
Re: Best upgrade for starters [Penny2269]
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Try a race first and make sure you like it?
Re: Best upgrade for starters [Penny2269]
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Bike fit to get aero in a position of good power production.
di2 is great. Dura Ace is a waste of money over Ultegra unless you've optimized just about everything else.
Tires and tubes are great speed-per-dollar investments. Latex or tubeless and low rolling resistance tires are a must.
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di2 is great. Dura Ace is a waste of money over Ultegra unless you've optimized just about everything else.
Tires and tubes are great speed-per-dollar investments. Latex or tubeless and low rolling resistance tires are a must.
Dr. Alex Harrison | Founder & CEO | Sport Physiology & Performance PhD
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Join us on YouTube → Saturday Morning | Ride & Run Faster and our growing Saturday User Hub
Re: Best upgrade for starters [Penny2269]
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What brand and model are your tires?
Re: Best upgrade for starters [jimatbeyond]
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jimatbeyond wrote:
What brand and model are your tires?Does it matter? If you’re going for a speed per dollar, with no races coming up soon, just run whatever you’ve got then go to a best tire /tube you can afford when the current ones wear out.
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+1 on that....