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Re: Feedback on titanium skewers ? [BigBoyND] [ In reply to ]
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BigBoyND wrote:
DarkSpeedWorks wrote:


It sure is interesting to see the wide range of success and failure with titanium skewers.


There is no reason a Ti skewer would be less reliable than a steel one with all else being the same.


You've gone from all else being the same to not being the same. A Ti skewer needs to be overbuilt relative to steel in order to compensate for the lower stiffness. Hopefully people are using solid hubs and forks with them and nothing ultralight. Definitely go for the reputable suppliers.

Edit: a 5*140 mm rod (typical for a front skewer) in Ti is going to be under 10g lighter than the same in steel. That's not much of a saving. There's more to be saved in reducing the weight of the rest of the hardware by more machining or using plastic and Aluminum where possible, (as well as reducing rod diameter, and using hollow spindles that some manufacturers do). Makes it more difficult, but not impossible, to achieve adequate clamping force. Either way, pay for the well- engineered skewers and know that weight savings is probably more due to design than rod material.
Last edited by: carlosflanders: Dec 5, 20 19:30
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Re: Feedback on titanium skewers ? [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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Hello DarkSpeedWorks and All,

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Re: Feedback on titanium skewers ? [carlosflanders] [ In reply to ]
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carlosflanders wrote:

You've gone from all else being the same to not being the same. A Ti skewer needs to be overbuilt relative to steel in order to compensate for the lower stiffness. Hopefully people are using solid hubs and forks with them and nothing ultralight. Definitely go for the reputable suppliers.

I mean all else equal in construction. Increased cam leverage to adjust for material flexibility is not a material/construction change. No need to overbuild at all, anywhere.

If a Ti skewer isn't working, it's because it is a bad skewer, not because it's made of Ti.
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Re: Feedback on titanium skewers ? [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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DarkSpeedWorks wrote:
dangle wrote:
I have had two different ones shift in a horizontal dropout QR bike. Steel only on that bike. Fantastic on vertical dropouts and an easy way to save grams for not too much money.


Interesting, good to know as well.

This would be for an older rim-brake P3 with very short horizontal dropouts, but it has those tiny adjuster screws. So, tough call ...


Anybody use ti skewers to good (or bad) effect on a P3 of 2012 vintage?

I used Zipp Ti skewers & American Classic Ti skewers on my 2010 P3 w/Zipp wheels w/out any issues. But I liked the feel of using steel better (not sure if the metal in the dropouts makes a different 1 vs the other or not)...but to me I just went with it & still use the steel ones. I have no data on that aside from "feel" while riding.
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Re: Feedback on titanium skewers ? [DarkSpeedWorks] [ In reply to ]
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I had Ti skewers for a while, can't say I could tell the difference between those or steel once on the bike. Probably not something I'd buy (mine were given to me) or recommend as an upgrade, just don't see much value.
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