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Pro triathletes and open Marathons
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Why is it that most pro-traithletes don't run open marathons and what would be a typical finishing time for a pro? All I could find was Sam Long who ran a 2:31 and Mark allen who ran at sub2:20 pace until mile 18 before blowing up. Lionel has a HM pb of 1:06 but doesn't appear to have ran a full
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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [Kontich55] [ In reply to ]
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Most avoid it, in my experience, as it doesn´t serve a training purpose. Those I´ve worked with that have done one have usually just *accidentally* run over 42km in a long run.

Lionel and Cody Beals have both run over 42km during treadmill sessions, Matt Hanson, Kim Morrison and Rasmus Svenningsson have run over 42km outdoors.

Of athletes I have worked with that have taken a punt at an open marathon it has usually been during off season and for fun e.g. a destination trip with friends/family/loved ones

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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [tilburs] [ In reply to ]
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some do. Greg Billington *team USA olympic triathlete 2016) did 2:17 at the 2020 olympic trials. the spot light doesnt shine so much on them in marathon
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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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I ran a 2:39 in ski shape (downhill) in January a few years ago. 2:30 pace through 22, then more or less walked the final 4 miles, way harder than I thought it would be. I think the fastest guys are probably in the 2:20-2:25 range if they did it while race ready...
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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [Kontich55] [ In reply to ]
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There just isn’t much of an incentive to for most. Why beat your legs up and hamper training when you could race a 70.3 or IM and likely make a good bit more money in the process. And most triathletes would be hard pressed to make any significant money from pure running.

But since there are no big races happening anyway, I went ahead and jumped into a “marathon” yesterday. Though my time of around 3:23 was reflective of starting at around 10,000ft of altitude with over 3,000ft of climbing...

I do doubt you would see many pro triathletes running at a truly elite marathon level. With the occasional exception for those who came from that background. Ricky Flynn likely holds one of the fastest with a 2:13:41 before turning to tri.

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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [Kontich55] [ In reply to ]
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Because they are pro triathletes and not pro marathon runners.

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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [LewisElliot] [ In reply to ]
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I believe Ryan Bolton and Christian Bustos both did 2:23. Christian did it at a race on a track in Chile, Ryan may have done it at the Phoenix Marathon in the depth of winter outside his tri season. Both were really at the the light end of pro triathletes. Most of the larger pros don't go anywhere near those times. They are just too heavy to run super fast marathons. Stadler ran 2:32 or so at the Frankfurt Marathon in 2007 after he dropped out of Kona.

Erin Baker and Sonia Krolich both ran 2:37 on the women's side. The fastest I know is Jackie Gallaghar (RIP), who ran 2:32 at the Nagoya marathon according to her Wikipedia entry (seems fast given her 5k PB was 16.19....she would need to be high 15:xx).
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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [SnappingT] [ In reply to ]
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Here is Tyler Butterfield's 2:21:

http://www.royalgazette.com/...-his-marathon-record

Sounds like he gets off racing marathons too
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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Peter Reid ran 2:45 at Boston 2002 after winning Kona the previous fall. He was in town to make appearances at the expo and ran with a buddy that he was pacing to get a PR.



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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [Kontich55] [ In reply to ]
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I dont know if it is most, but a lot of pros have run stand alone marathons, just you dont know about them. A few have popped up here on this thread, there are 100's more over the years that are mostly lost to the pre internet times.

But as many of the coaches here have said, it is a fun thing to do for the majority, using that term fun lightly. A few had serious runs at it in their times and places in the world, Sisson, Bustos, Billington, Parades on the mens side. Erin Baker won money with her 2;35+ speed, along with a few other women in the 2;30's. And I suppose if you have been living off the grid in a cave the past5 years, you might have missed the most famous triathletes ever to actually move over to running full time, targeting the marathon. I do wish her well, but the few she has run thus far have not been inspiring, and perhaps telling her to race down in distance...
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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [Kontich55] [ In reply to ]
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Matt Mcwilliams is a rookie Pro this year. Very impressive age group results. Former NCAA runner with a 3:48 1500m pb, went 2:21 at CIM 2019

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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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That Billington race still blows my mind! His Insta says he did 2:16:42 in the San Francisco marathon as well...crazy stuff.

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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [Kontich55] [ In reply to ]
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Kontich55 wrote:
Why is it that most pro-traithletes don't run open marathons and what would be a typical finishing time for a pro? All I could find was Sam Long who ran a 2:31 and Mark allen who ran at sub2:20 pace until mile 18 before blowing up. Lionel has a HM pb of 1:06 but doesn't appear to have ran a full

Didn't Ivan Rana run some stupid fast marathon with no shoes one time. Maybe it was only 10k or half-marathon. There are others as well Adam Bohach ran a 2:26 at Grandmas. Norman ran a 2:32. Clay Emge has jogged a few low 2:30s.


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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
I believe Ryan Bolton and Christian Bustos both did 2:23. Christian did it at a race on a track in Chile, Ryan may have done it at the Phoenix Marathon in the depth of winter outside his tri season. Both were really at the the light end of pro triathletes. Most of the larger pros don't go anywhere near those times. They are just too heavy to run super fast marathons. Stadler ran 2:32 or so at the Frankfurt Marathon in 2007 after he dropped out of Kona.

Erin Baker and Sonia Krolich both ran 2:37 on the women's side. The fastest I know is Jackie Gallaghar (RIP), who ran 2:32 at the Nagoya marathon according to her Wikipedia entry (seems fast given her 5k PB was 16.19....she would need to be high 15:xx).

Nagoya is one of Japan's elite women's marathons. Fast course, competitive field, usually good weather conditions. Ideal for fast times.

Jackie also ran a 7:41 for 100 km in 2009, following her retirement from triathlon. She missed the Aussie 100 km record by less than 30 seconds at the time.
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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [Kontich55] [ In reply to ]
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i do believe craig mottram jumped into some multisport races in his life. and though it wasn't a marathon, he's surely the only triathlete in history to take gebreselassie to the line:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iji-AWE6XvI

i think he went 2:28 in the marathon at one point, though clearly more of a middle-distance man. . .

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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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iron_mike wrote:
i do believe craig mottram jumped into some multisport races in his life. and though it wasn't a marathon, he's surely the only triathlete in history to take gebreselassie to the line:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iji-AWE6XvI

i think he went 2:28 in the marathon at one point, though clearly more of a middle-distance man. . .

I reckon Craig would be reasonably happy with his career, but if he went down a different path, IMO, he would have been a very, very competitive triathlete. I think he was the national schoolboy champ & importantly, apparently he could swim very well.
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Re: Pro triathletes and open Marathons [NAB777] [ In reply to ]
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absolutely - it's one of the great "what ifs" of triathlon. . .

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