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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [Tri_Joeri] [ In reply to ]
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God bless that Spring Classics.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [Tri_Joeri] [ In reply to ]
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turdburgler wrote:
Prioritize the process is a beautiful message.


I have had to feel the pain of learning this so many times, but it really has been something I cling on to over the years. The process is where the peace is found for me. I have to do work every day on a good lot of things, but it is so rewarding. A lot of that was found for me after university when I had to become sober and learned that for someone wired the way I am, I have a real need to do specific work every day to just get through my own issues to grow.

It played out the same ways early in life even though I was unaware of it. My parents stuck me in a pool for swim clubs at 4 because the doctor said it would help with my asthma. I was so shite for a long time, but I loved it because I had friends who all worked with me every day. Eventually being good wasn't that rewarding even if it was nice for my ego. The build up to everything was always the tops.

The process of trying every day makes me whole. Every one of us does that differently, but I think its quite wonderful that we all seek it in our own ways. 50 watts at threshold or a million, people doing their best is inspiring.

Sorry for the rant. This is probably the most positive thread on the Twitch and it is a blast! :)

Thanks for sharing that :)

Also, hope you enjoyed the footie match yesterday. That wily old Jose.



Tri_Joeri wrote:
I completely agree! Everyone has to work hard to get where they are, doesn't matter which level that brings them too. And the process is what makes it fun. There will always be someone who's better, but I train to beat the me from a few days/weeks/months/years ago. If that also allows me to get a better result in any kind of competition then ofcourse that's the icing on the cake. As an engineer I'm a bit of a numbers guy so that also provides a lot of self motivation haha.
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Oh and ps, VAM calculations say Tao did 6.3 w/kg for the whole 38 minutes under optimal conditions with a draft. This year was wild. There were comments about the Giro or Vuelta being weak, but I certainly do not see that.


Absolutely, I've enjoyed all three of them and the way they developed. Even though the field was arguably perhaps not as strong, I think the Vuelta was my favorite. All the uphill finishes and the battles. The Tour was too controlled mostly. The Giro has always been my favorite since it at least includes some time trialling (definitely not enough, we need a prologue, a +60k TTT and a +40k ITT at least), and it was also full of surprises.

3 months until the Omloop guys!

Amen to all that.

Also, I tried to get interested in CX, but some part of me just can't get into it. At least there's football/soccer to tide things over until Omloop.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]
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Magnus Sheffield, a junior, just averaged 530 for 3k on the track, beating Phinney’s record. Think about that...
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Carl Spackler wrote:
Magnus Sheffield, a junior, just averaged 530 for 3k on the track, beating Phinney’s record. Think about that...

Magnus is the perfect name for that kind of power.

For the rest of us, “The best effort is not concerned with results.”
(Or, prioritize the process.)
To live by.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Carl Spackler wrote:
Magnus Sheffield, a junior, just averaged 530 for 3k on the track, beating Phinney’s record. Think about that...

And he ain't just a flat track bully, having gotten Bronze last year at World's (where Simmons took the gold)
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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That's a damn impressive ride especially at 74 kgs. Ganna's 4km IP record was done just shy of 610 watts for 4 minutes and change. Granted he's 81 kilos, but still those kind of outputs are eye watering.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]
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turdburgler wrote:
That's a damn impressive ride especially at 74 kgs. Ganna's 4km IP record was done just shy of 610 watts for 4 minutes and change. Granted he's 81 kilos, but still those kind of outputs are eye watering.

And a whole lotta hurting

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As Sheffield pushed a massive 60 x 15 gear around the velodrome at 110 rotations per minute, he felt his legs burn with lactic acid, and his arms became stiff in the bike’s aerodynamic extensions. And as Sheffield pushed harder, he noticed that his peripheral vision had become darkened.
“I felt like I was looking into a tunnel that was getting smaller and smaller, with my eyes only able to focus on the straight line in front of me,” Sheffield told VeloNews. “I was just trying to keep as clean a line as possible but those last two laps were really painful.”

I've always wished I had a miler's kick, being able to blast it when the legs are already soaked in lactic acid. Unfortunately, I'm just a slowtwitcher who can punch it in fifth gear but could never quite manage to find that additional gear.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]
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And only 18 years old. How much more will he have in 4-5 years when more physically developed? 5%? 10?
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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Carl Spackler wrote:
And only 18 years old. How much more will he have in 4-5 years when more physically developed? 5%? 10?


I, for one, welcome our new youthful cycling demi-gods. Glad the U.S. may have an entry on the men's side. (we're doing pretty well on the women's side already). Though maybe I shouldn't be slotting him next to Evenepoel, et al, just yet.

I thought that Magnus' Jr. Worlds performance was equally impressive as Quinn Simmons' and he'd slipped slightly under the radar. Maybe not anymore.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [trail] [ In reply to ]
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In other (unimportant) news, Zwift has given Thomas de Tank a wildcard invite for next week's UCI "E-racing" Championship. Rightfully so, I should add, given how Zwift told de Tank that he should find his calling as a pro. I'm sure de Tank won't be so amused to line up next to no namers who apparently could do 6 w/kg for 20 minutes and pack a 15-sec sprint at 15 w/kg average. Nor would be be so amused by the fact that his aerodynamic prowess will count for nought here... But at least Zwift is giving him a shot at the race.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/...world-championships/

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Also, E3 Harelbeke (I mean E3 Saxo Bank) will have more climbing in next year's edition. Slow news day, I know.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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If the 40-something former quasi-elite triathlete who's famous for being a Zwift champion is even in the same zip code as de Tank at the end of this thing, I'm done with Zwift. :)

Though I agree that Zwift does not favor Thomas' skill set.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
If the 40-something former quasi-elite triathlete who's famous for being a Zwift champion is even in the same zip code as de Tank at the end of this thing, I'm done with Zwift. :)

Though I agree that Zwift does not favor Thomas' skill set.

At least that dude is a former pro (as in, has IRL palmares). The 6 w/kg for 20 min + 15 w/kg for 15 sec dude is literally still a cat-3 (and was no where to be found in his last championship event, a cat-3 road race that favors climbers with a good kick), and he's ranked in the top 20 worldwide on Zwift.

Cue profanity-laden tirade...
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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echappist wrote:
In other (unimportant) news, Zwift has given Thomas de Tank a wildcard invite for next week's UCI "E-racing" Championship. Rightfully so, I should add, given how Zwift told de Tank that he should find his calling as a pro. I'm sure de Tank won't be so amused to line up next to no namers who apparently could do 6 w/kg for 20 minutes and pack a 15-sec sprint at 15 w/kg average. Nor would be be so amused by the fact that his aerodynamic prowess will count for nought here... But at least Zwift is giving him a shot at the race.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/...world-championships/

I can not wait for this. It actually will be pretty fun I think.

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Also, E3 Harelbeke (I mean E3 Saxo Bank) will have more climbing in next year's edition. Slow news day, I know.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]
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turdburgler wrote:
echappist wrote:
In other (unimportant) news, Zwift has given Thomas de Tank a wildcard invite for next week's UCI "E-racing" Championship. Rightfully so, I should add, given how Zwift told de Tank that he should find his calling as a pro. I'm sure de Tank won't be so amused to line up next to no namers who apparently could do 6 w/kg for 20 minutes and pack a 15-sec sprint at 15 w/kg average. Nor would be be so amused by the fact that his aerodynamic prowess will count for nought here... But at least Zwift is giving him a shot at the race.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/...world-championships/


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Also, E3 Harelbeke (I mean E3 Saxo Bank) will have more climbing in next year's edition. Slow news day, I know.

I can not wait for this. It actually will be pretty fun I think.

In a way, I'm also going to spectate, but only in a perversely cynical manner of hoping the real pro cyclists kicking the snots out of Zwift Toughguys/gals
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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It will be interesting. I certainly understand that the gamification thing is really important.

I just checked the road crew who are starting and there are some serious cyclists on the men and women's start list.

Campanaerts
Iserbyt
de Tank
Chaves
Uran
Pidcock
Bettiol
Craddock
Cory Williams too!

Iserbyr and Pidcock are crossing right now so I am assuming that hour long big power with sprint starts, huge surges above threshold are going to suit them at this time of year. I'm really curious to see how they go.

van Vleuten
van de Breggen
Moolman Pasio (we know she can Zwift race well)
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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"The process is where the peace is found for me"Nice quote TB, understood. Slaughtering yourself for team mates has a peacefulness. can't all be stars, but the simple recognition of a good effort is thanks enough. Nowhere without enjoying the process first.

Saw the thread pop back up, just wanted to extend thanks for the collective kicking ass as you all do,
year by year. By far my favorite thread on the intrawebs. Saying more with less. Beauty.

Thanks all.

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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, I’d think the CX guys have a better shot than Tank or Campanaerts. Pidcock could do very well and add to his e-palmares.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2020 Cycling Restart Thread *Spoilers* [Carl Spackler] [ In reply to ]
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The Belgian selection is all messed up again, they're saying Campenaerts is being backed as the "leader" which makes no sense. Ok he might do good sustained power and might be one of the pro's with the most Zwift experience next to Thomas de Gendt, but when you have Lionel Vujasin in the team, you back that guy. He's on the best e-Racing team and wins quite some Zwift Pro races.. He's our national Zwift champ 2019, CVR world cup winner 2018 and is the Wallonia (French speaking part of Belgium) CX champ of 2015,2016,2017 and the Liege regional CX champ of 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2019.. Great engine, powerful kick/sprint. Makes no sense not to back him as the leader.
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