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Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions
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I've been wanting more hand positions when riding my gravel bike Particularly a position that works when aero is most important - grinding into a headwind on an open road.

Intrigued with the idea of something inboard of the shifter. Maybe draft legal clip-on type aerobars or re-purposing MTB bar ends.

I am certain I am not alone and that slowtwitch readers are not only more open to adding aero extensions on their gravel bike but also have easy access to possible solutions. Let's discuss and feel free to post photos of your solutions.
Last edited by: DavidK: Jul 13, 20 5:04
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [DavidK] [ In reply to ]
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This article is a pretty decent overview.

https://www.cyclingabout.com/...eed-bike-adventures/

I would love to just slap on some bar ends by the stem, but I haven't really found any made for 31.8. RideFarr makes some clipons, but I haven't ponied up the cash yet. They have bars with integrated aero handholds which also look interesting.

https://ridefarr.com/...dlebar-aero-bolt-on/
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [avatar78] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks. In addition to bar ends extending forward from the top of the handlebars I have wondered about some sort of bar end extending inwards from the area where the shifter and handlebar junction.

There are low cost 31.8mm bar ends around the web but I'd like to see if someone else has already developed what I might like before taking the tape off y bars and experimenting.

I have a cool old set of Deda clip ons that I do not think would work with 31.8 bars.
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [DavidK] [ In reply to ]
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DavidK wrote:
There are low cost 31.8mm bar ends around the web

Ooh can you point me to them? I did a search last year I think and came up completely dry. I would love to run some for cheap aero.
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [avatar78] [ In reply to ]
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Found these two:
Charge:
https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/...19kqyuchrgbrndxxxmsc


https://www.wish.com/...vD_BwE&share=web

Not yet sure about Specialized, Ergon, Origin8, Syncros and Serfas...
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [avatar78] [ In reply to ]
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avatar78 wrote:
This article is a pretty decent overview.

https://www.cyclingabout.com/...eed-bike-adventures/

I would love to just slap on some bar ends by the stem, but I haven't really found any made for 31.8. RideFarr makes some clipons, but I haven't ponied up the cash yet. They have bars with integrated aero handholds which also look interesting.

https://ridefarr.com/...dlebar-aero-bolt-on/

I've got the ridefarr clip-ons. Their newly released armrests are in transit and should be here later this week. I really like the shape and it forces me to hold them palm down. However, I wish they were a little longer. They are about 12cm from the center of the handlebar to the end of the clip-on. I wish they were closer to 17-18 cm and more like a draft legal clip-on length and then they would be perfect (with the armrests).

I've tried just about every manner of clip-on from Zipp, HED, Profile, Vison (mini tt), a Fred Bar mount from Siren, and even a set of JTEK that mount to Thomson X4 stem that I've had for a while and still haven't found the perfect set up for gravel. (That JTEK solution is the best out there for my aero road dropbar) Maybe my opinion will change once I get the armrest kit from ridefarr. If that doesn't do it, maybe I will try the ControlTech Impel.

I am looking for what I would want out of road clip on: low stack, pads behind the handlebar, and adjustable extension length. But unlike a road setup, for gravel I want extensions that allow a palm down orientation for my forearms.

Suffer Well.
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [DavidK] [ In reply to ]
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DavidK wrote:
Found these two:
Charge:
https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/...19kqyuchrgbrndxxxmsc


https://www.wish.com/...vD_BwE&share=web

Not yet sure about Specialized, Ergon, Origin8, Syncros and Serfas...

Ah okay, I think what they're saying is they will fit any mtb handlebar, but they're still designed for a 22.2 OD unfortunately.
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [DavidK] [ In reply to ]
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I don't think this is quite what you had in mind but check these out just in case

https://www.sq-lab.com/...oducts/innerbarends/

I used to use TOGS for rambling rides and longer races but these are even betterer
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [Tim_Canterbury] [ In reply to ]
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The Innerbarends have a 22.2 clamping size. Did you attach them to 31.8 or smaller bars? Thanks. David K
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [DavidK] [ In reply to ]
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I did forget about these Origin8 clip-ons. Not nearly as ergonomic as the RideFarr ones, but then again much cheaper.

http://www.origin8.bike/...ri-clipon-bars-33967
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [DavidK] [ In reply to ]
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I just wish there was a 31.8 version of the old Spinachi bars. The RideFarr is close, but as mentioned it seems awfully short and expensive
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [DavidK] [ In reply to ]
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What about a Control Tech Falcon or Scirocco? It mount's to your stem and is on the shorter side. Haven't used it personally, but definitely looks interesting!
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [DavidK] [ In reply to ]
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I'm hoping this thread gets some photos of set ups that inspire me. I went ahead and purchased the Charge barends from Dicks that fit 31.8bars for $26 shipped. I may also play with old PD bars and a hacksaw.
Last edited by: DavidK: Jul 14, 20 6:25
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [DavidK] [ In reply to ]
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I guess you will find out when they arrive, but I don't think the clamp on the charge bar-ends is 31.8mm, but instead that both 25.4mm and 31.8mm bars will taper down to a 22.2mm clamp in the brake lever/shifter/grip/bar end section.
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [pknight] [ In reply to ]
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It would help if I knew what I wanted. It seems setting up gravel bars is harder than any others. The bars have to accommodate everything from slow semi-technical single and double track all the way up to straight up grinding into a headwind.
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [DavidK] [ In reply to ]
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ControlTech still makes several types of mini clip-ons:

https://www.controltechbikes.com/...ist/category/75.html
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [avatar78] [ In reply to ]
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This is super helpful! Thanks
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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Revisiting this thread a year later.

I've read Dan's solution on his bikepacking bike article. He used a Diamondback aerobar with a interesting hack (maybe a bodge) to get a new hand position on shorten ski bend extensions.






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Diamondback found that the HED Cobras were too high quality to be used as an original equipment bar. Cost too much. So, they made a bar of their own, based on the Cobra design. That’s what this bar is. If a bar is good for road racers, it’s going to be good for gravel racers, because road and gravel offer pretty much the same use, same fit and clearance issues. Now, for sure, I couldn’t just leave it here. I had to do some tinkering. The extensions are just straight ski bends. I cut off most of the ski bend part, then I took an old ski bend extension from another bar, and cut the end off so that I just has a length of extension with the ski bend in the middle.

I took a set of old Dura Ace bar-end shifters, I drilled out the part that holds the shifter proper, because I really only needed the wedge mechanism. I bolted the ski bend to the end of each extension.


I fear I must have committed some sins with the extension end, but this is what I wanted. I’m still playing around with it, but it’s pretty close. I may come back in a future installment with something different, that is, with a different extension end.

Beyond that, I find the pads position quite narrow. It’s fine for road racers because if you’ve ever made a study of Pro Tour time trial bikes, they are unique in the narrowness of the armrests. But I’m bikepacking, and if I do go 30mph it’s not on the flats, like these time trial specialists. I don’t need the armrests that narrow. I may experiment with an adapter that moves the pads out, but, when I do so will the cradle system handle that cantilever? I don’t know. Better that I try it and report back, rather than you try it and we read about you in our Forum.

It seems part of his "problem" with the narrow pads and the need to bodge up a dura-ace shifter and a piece of an extension to make wider palm down hand position was due in part to the Profile DVR GMR bar with a raised top section beyond the stem clamp area. This "problem" and desire for an adapter to move the pad out could have been avoided with a normal handlebar that allowed the clip on to be clamped wider. (I'm not sure I "get" this handlebar unless you have already cut your steerer too low and need a higher handlebar position. But maybe I am missing something.)

I tried to improve upon Dan's solution. I've spent some time tinkering with my HED Clip Lites after being frustrated with the Ride Farr short length. I run a Salsa CowBell bar as I prefer a normal top, aluminum handlebar and the slight flare that they have. With a normal handlebar top I was able to space out my pad and then extension to a bit more comfortable width. I cut down the tips of a set of ski bends and it was close, I could ride palms down, but I needed something a bit more substantial to hang on to. I lacked to willingness to piece together a solution like Dan's and came across this bridge from Conquer that ties the ends of the extensions together. It is more flexible in the positioning than the comparable Profile bridge. The part the fits into the extension is on a ball joint. That ball join allows me to adjust with the width and angle of the tips of the extensions in more ways than the Profile bridge. And with it I can get a bar that looks similar to Dan's with wider pads and extensions and no dura-ace shifters sacrificed.



This seems to be the best gravel aero bar solution for me so far.

Suffer Well.
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [DavidK] [ In reply to ]
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Pictures as you asked. I might trim a little more off (1-2 cm) the ends of the extensions. A few more rides before I do that. Palms down, pads flip up out of the way, and adjustable length.- checks a lot of my boxes.









Suffer Well.
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Re: Gravel Bike Aero Cockpits - Show Us Your Solutions [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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What pads are you using that flip up? The only ones I know of are Profile but you have HED pads on there.
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