Thanks for the answer. Yes I need to get my hands on a pair of those. Will have to wait for world travel to resume and when I can next visit my family and friends in Switzerland!

Nike Epic React Flyknit. 7.5oz, but super cushioned and durable. Flyknit upper is socklike (no tongue). I just pull them on (leave the laces tied) and go. Use them for everything from speedwork to long runs.

You can get them online for <$75 (esp. if you don't mind funky colors like the "Miami Vice" below), so a cost effective trainer (vs. the more expensive Nike "%" shoes).

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Saucony Kinvara for training (been using them for 10 years now), had their Type A6 for racing but it was only useful up to 10km. Picked up the Endorphin Pro for a light racing shoe. Heard the fast twitch are a good lightweight shoe mainly for tempo/race.

Yeah I ran in the Hyperspeed (same shoe) for a few years, loved them, but you can't get them in Australia anymore same with the Hyper-tri. And yeah never wore socks even for a 70.3.

Nike Next % hands down the best I have tried (for racing)

wow - how long have they had the funky extended heel ? I thought Hoka was first to market with the flyaway heel, in the TenNine..
interesting shoe, thanks..

my choice in lightweight is the Hoka Rincon, 7.7oz, still has the Hoka feel, and inexpensive..

I have a pair for going to the lake and kicking around in. They are garbage. Easy to get off and on and look cool. Blistered the shit out of my feet at IM 70.3 New Orleans. Also have no cushion. I used to run in On Clouds and loved them. I've been told they have no cushion. Well, I can say the Asics Hyper Tri are like running barefoot on pavement. Just brutal.

Sub 3:00 Marathon (Over 30 marathons run, i think)
12XIM Finisher (KQ)

Hands down the New Balance 1500 for races.
I now train in the New Balance FuelCell Rebel; impartial on those.
Track workouts in the New Balance 1400.

I've done 90% of my training in this shoe over the last three years. Phenomenal shoe (on my foot). The React foam has magic properties..... when I put on a non-react foam shoe and go for a run it just feels dead on my feet.

I've never paid more than $80 for a pair. I've got them in hot pink, baby poop brown (Nike says gold), bright orange, pink and black..... I don't care as long as they are cheap.

As an aside, I had been suffering from PF in both feet, left more than right, for more than two years when I first started running in this shoe. I loved the shoe so much that I did almost all of my running in the Epic React. One day I woke up and realized that my feet weren't killing me any more. Was it the shoe? Did it just resolve? No idea. But if it ain't broke I'm not fixing it.

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It's been about 3yrs. This was one of the first shoes w/React foam. I think they need the wider midsole for stability due to the softness of the foam.

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Unless you are running on the track or are very competitive in shorter road races (5k), I wouldn't bother with a lightweight shoe. Basically, get a shoe that works for you, don't pick that shoe based on weight.

I think one of the concerns about training in a light shoe is PF. I had been running in New Balance Beacons, a light shoe with reasonable cushion but a pretty flexible sole, and developed PF. I'm now on the Nike Zoom Fly 3, which has a very stiff sole due to the carbon plate, and my PF has gone away without cutting back on my running. I'm never run in the Epic React, but my daughter just picked up a pair. The sole is not as stiff as the Flys but it's a lot stiffer and more protective than the Beacons. I suspect you got a similar benefit from your shoe switch as I did.

Interesting because I thought they were a lot cushier than the Saucony Fastwitch that I used to use. The first pair I had almost felt spongy.

How narrow are these Epic Flyknits and how mushy and what is the drop?

When you look at the bottom of the shoe, it looks quite wide, but the upper is a medium width (neither wide nor narrow).

Drop is 10mm 28/18.

The react foam is really soft, but there is do much platform that you don’t sink in or feel a trampoline-ish effect. About the same durameter as Boost. Firmer than the Nike % shoes; softer than NB fresh foam. One aspect where it’s like a flat is that there is not a lot of torsional stiffness.

This review is spot on imo: https://www.runningshoesguru.com/...eact-flyknit-review/

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Great review!

I used to be a guy that wore a different shoe every day, depending on the workout. Speed shoes, middle distance, long run. I could go 5-6 days without wearing the same style or brand of shoe.

Since getting the Epic React, I still run in a different shoe every day but they are all just different pairs of Epic React. It doesn't matter what workout is on my schedule, from quarter mile repeats, to 18 mile long runs, to tempo training, this shoe does it all.

I have added in the Nike Zoom Fly 3 on occasion if I really want to go fast....

Race day shoes are 4% or Next %.

If you would have told me five years ago that I would be running exclusively in Nike I would have laughed at you. I may not like the corporate culture but I love the product. Not sure what that says about me.

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Is the epic react disco’d? I can only find the Nike React Infinity Run Flyknit. Is that the new version of the epic react or am I missing something??

Sure we're talking about the same shoe!? Hyperspeeds and pure racing flats. I can get through a 70.3/HM in them, but will be sore the next day.

Lots of votes for the Razer. I should give them a shot too
I took a shot on the go run 7+ and really love them

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